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Old 06-22-2012, 09:19 AM   #101
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cheap labor only helps the rich and greedy.
Just in the last week, I met up with a gal who does some architectural work, and has some good clients........she had gotten a price for a chimney rebuild, which the owner thought was too high. He said "I have some Mexican guys that just did some work for me down here, (Louisville KY) should I bring them up?" Anesthesiologist, has a 1.4 million dollar summer home where he comes for three weeks.......She was laughing because a week before, ANOTHER guy she does work for, from Dallas, some trader, had said "My guys charge 8 bucks an hour......should I bring them to the island?" My point is.......here are some of the wealthiest folks in the U.S., and it bugs the s*** out of many of them to have to pay a living wage to 'construction workers'.....the generic term often used to describe us.......As a side note, how many know that you can rent your home, (or summer home) for up to two weeks, and not have to even report it on your income tax return? And many of these summer homes can fetch 6,8, 12,000+ per week!!! Of course this 'opportunity' is available to anyone, just not realistic for those of us who own but one home.......
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Old 06-22-2012, 09:35 AM   #102
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We need to kick out some of the whiners.
I see these guys out a 5:30AM in the middle of the winter standing in the pouring ass rain. Then I see some white guy bitching about not getting his break.

when they enter the US legally they will get my respect Until then Not so much!

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Old 06-22-2012, 09:54 AM   #103
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And the number one result of these day laborers and illegals is the number of them and are immediatley identified as contractors even by wealthy.
Legitimate prices based on thorough construction practices is probably 40% -60% different in cost and we are viewed as crazy or greedy. This is where the mass's of them create a new bottom line and supress the going rate.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:59 PM   #104
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Think that one through. Do you really want government-run slave labor competing in the market?
Yes it should become the norm! I see them all the time over here out cutting weeds beside the roads. Sometimes men and sometimes women.
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Yes it should become the norm! I see them all the time over here out cutting weeds beside the roads. Sometimes men and sometimes women.
So you wouldn't object to the state sending out extremely low-priced framing crews to compete in your line of work?
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So you wouldn't object to the state sending out extremely low-priced framing crews to compete in your line of work?
No I'm referring to jobs that Americans don't want to do like picking food. The entry jobs the they use illegals for. Don't they still have chain gangs in Arizona with the pink underwear The inmates that are brought out to work here like to do it, it gets them out. After all who doesn't like to use a weed eater. The thing is life inside must be so bad they want to work outside. Even over here labor is brought over from Thai land to work the fields.
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I do get your point Tin
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:19 PM   #108
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OK let them rot in jail and but the welfare frauds to work in the fields, but jail needs to be not funn. Over here the local boys are not one of the boys unless they been through OCCC and have jail house tattoos
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I dig the idea of welfare and long term unemployed doing some work for their money.
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Might get em off welfare
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:26 PM   #111
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So you wouldn't object to the state sending out extremely low-priced framing crews to compete in your line of work?
And on this point,,,About 20 years ago I was building 2 units on a lot for a contractor and it wasn't about till the end of the job that the contractor tells me that the one guy was out on a work release program from OCCC he did 3 years for manslaughter Gee thanks Steve
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Only someone who knows nothing of prison would describe it as "Fun" really? and if people on gov't assistance can work, they should. (that goes for JP morgan/Chase also)
The jobs outside are a big time privilege in prisons. Inmates have to earn them. Just the same There should be more of them. There is plenty of stuff that can be done that won't compete with the market. How many trashed areas in cities and towns could be cleaned up? There is no reason anyone should be sitting on their ass. (unless it's me typing this)
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would describe it as "Fun" really?
That's the way it's described here! As my 2nd home, my family is there The local boys are proud of the time they spend at OCCC and do crimes just to get back in! You'd have to live here to fully understand.

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