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Old 12-26-2018, 08:09 PM   #1
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client just doesn't get along with the architect
and the architect is a real pain , doesn't want to answer questions ,
last time we called with a revision , he took over a month , and charged over a couple grand for making a drawing for installing an i-beam , and 2 columns.

client is asking if we can have another architect to do the revisions on these plans . its a permit-job , in south florida.

i`m sure i can find out , at the building department , any of you have an issue like this ?

we`re not changing walls or structure
client thought it would be smart to keep the plans simple , and not show a lot of details.
today he asked if the electricians, and plumbers costs will change throughout the job ,
i said definitely , since there shows no details as far as fixtures for plumbing , and electric.
also , there is no mechanical , and the unit has to move about 5 feet over , they cant price that out, until they see exactly what the a/c engineer specs out. .
but now , i told him i need to have all those details if he wants a solid number on plumbing , and electric , and a/c.

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Old 12-26-2018, 08:16 PM   #2
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what does the contract with the architect say?

could be expensive to get rid of him.

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what does the contract with the architect say?

could be expensive to get rid of him.
In Florida, residential is not so difficult to get rid of an architect so long as they aren't construction managers as well.

Otherwise I'm pretty sure you bought the plans not the intellectual property. So, you can change/alter/delete existing plans but not recreate them.

Call'em up, tell him your client is looking for a new Archy, see his reaction. From the sounds of it things won't get any worse.
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How do you get the archly to release his drawing file ?!

The project would have to be redrawn, no ?

I was working on a project in Florida from VT that went south, is this it?!


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this architect was not interested in doing any changes , so most likely he won`t care of we get rid of him
i guess it`ll be like a " change of contractor" form

everything he has done was not really in consideration of the workers.

the i-beam the client had him draw in was just stupid , he spec`ed it to go right over the wall where the electric panel is , so all the piping , has to be moved , and the panel temporarily removed just to get it in place.
also this wall has a gas line in it , and the a/c lines right in the way
he could have put this i-beam a foot over , and made it much easier to install , where all these subs wouldn't have to do any extra work.
it has to be boxed i anyway , and will look like a fat header no matter what.
realistically , the client talked him into this metal support system , where right now the wood wall is working just fine supporting the existing rafters . a good architect would have told the client , " you really don`t need that at all.
he specified odd size columns where my steel guy said he`d have to order them made , as opposed to just using a typical -1/2 x -1/2 inch standard column.
he has made it clear he sin`t a team player , or has any empathy for clients or workers
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You can have anything you want for as long as the customer agrees and everyone is on the same page as the terms go.
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If the dude is not a team player I donít see him releasing his drawing file thus project will have to be redrawn from paper/digital pages. Not a big deal but the issue I expect. If youíre lucky architect will provide file scrubbed of all proprietary info.


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