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Old 01-17-2019, 08:12 PM   #1
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“Can You Fix This”


I’m doing some drywall in a friends basement and he says “can you fix this, my bathroom floor is starting to sag upstairs”? They had their bathroom redone and for some reason the plumber thought it would be no problem to cut a floor joist COMPLETLY in half and even remove a section of it to fit a trap in.
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Old 01-17-2019, 08:18 PM   #2
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So did you fix it?

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You need to header that off before the old boy ends up in the basement.
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Yes I did
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Maybe they should have put the tub in a better place.
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They were using leftover parts, I guess.

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Everything can be fixed, but if you asking that question, call someone who does this type of work.
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for some reason the plumber thought it would be no problem to cut a floor joist COMPLETLY in half and even remove a section of it to fit a trap in.
Thus the expression "justifiable homicide".
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and they`re not going to back charge the plumber ??
he should know better ,
i`m not a plumber , but ,
i know i can`t just cut a waste line and close the wall up.
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in fact !!
i`d cut that waste line completely out
then replace the joist. and close it back up.
then call the plumber and say " somethings wrong . the waters pouring everywhere .

let him re-open it , and see whats there now .
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let him say " what the hell did you do that for ??!"

then you could say , " what do you mean ? of course you wouldn't want to cut that structural beam out would you ? did you cut it out before ?"

and ask him to do his job right .
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By the looks of it, doubtful it was a real plumber.
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By the looks of it, doubtful it was a real plumber.
Plumbers always cut things and do not give a flying sh what carpenter think about it. I routinely schedule visit before sheetrock to fix what should be done.
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This bathroom was done 3-4 years ago. My buddy’s wife is real cheap, nice but cheap. I’m sure that bathroom was done by the cheapest hack she could find and I’m willing to bet he wasn’t a licensed plumber. The drain and trap set up doesn’t look right to me at least, looks more like something that should be under a sink. I don’t think you should have those threaded pressure connections on a set up like that, but I could be wrong.
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This bathroom was done 3-4 years ago. My buddyís wife is real cheap, nice but cheap. Iím sure that bathroom was done by the cheapest hack she could find and Iím willing to bet he wasnít a licensed plumber. The drain and trap set up doesnít look right to me at least, looks more like something that should be under a sink. I donít think you should have those threaded pressure connections on a set up like that, but I could be wrong.
Are you sheetrocking the ceiling there?
Looks like the trap may be lower than the joist once you push the joist back up.
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This bathroom was done 3-4 years ago. My buddyís wife is real cheap, nice but cheap. Iím sure that bathroom was done by the cheapest hack she could find and Iím willing to bet he wasnít a licensed plumber. The drain and trap set up doesnít look right to me at least, looks more like something that should be under a sink. I donít think you should have those threaded pressure connections on a set up like that, but I could be wrong.
Not sure whatís going on there but you can get an assy. that connects above the floor so the only thing sticking down is one drain directly under the tub drain. Looks like the overflow portion is whatís in the way of the floor joist. If heíd used the other style the floor joist wouldnít have been in the way. Thatís if Iím seeing it correctly.
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Yes drywall in that area, the trap doesn’t come down below the joist.

The pipe for the trap comes down right where the joist would have been. They could have done something other than removing the entire joist. In the very least a small notch at the top and two 45 degree fittings off the bottom of the tub to bring the trap down alongside the joist.
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Why does no one box out the tub drain anymore?





Edit: Not you, BLI, I'm referring to the original framer, and the host other situations like this posted here.
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I may have only seen a box out once, maybe twice.
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Why does no one box out the tub drain anymore?





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I think itís because most people know to position the tub so itís drain doesnít interfere with a joist.
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I think itís because most people know to position the tub so itís drain doesnít interfere with a joist.
It would seem like it's easier to move a joist over, or box out an opening, rather than rearrange a bathroom layout in order to miss a joist.

But maybe that's just me.

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