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Old 12-07-2018, 10:52 PM   #1
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Can`t Get This Client To Commit !!


nicest guy
a doctor
he`s making his condo into a recording studio.
wants me to sound-proof the between the wall studs and ceiling rafters , before we actually start the remodel.

i pulled a permit
but he wants to break it up into small pieces .
i`ve played along for a while now ( full demo)
now , were sound-proofing
for 5 months i`ve hopped in and out of this job ( i hate it) i usually stay on a job till its done .
the sound-proofing is so detailed , and specific way he wants me to do it , so i`m charging him by the hour for 2 of us.
he`s trying to get me to do down on my hourly rate for my guy - " i can see paying you that much , but do i really have to pay the same for your guy??"
i didnt` budge.i told him " thats how i make a living.
i told him " i can give you a set cost if you want , but i`m definitely going to make it high." ( theres alot of areas that havent been figured out yet. and he wants to dictate exactly how i`m to do them. i`m fine with that , that way if he doesn`t get the sound -rating he wants , its on him .)
he wont come down with all the finishes for electric , and plumbing details
. he keeps saying , "we can do that later "
he intentionally had the plans made vague , and with no finish notes on them.just framing
hes not devious, not really a game player ,been very honest so far , and sends money as i need it . just anal as hell , and i think he just can`t get his mind around me ( or anyone)just running this whole thing full on .so he wants to do it in little phases

wondering if i should just take my next check , and walk away.
i don`t want to haggle about each cost .
just want to give a full cost , and get the subs in there , and get moving.
there is a rhythm to a job , and its good to keep it moving at the right speed, otherwise the subs don`t come running , because they know there's going to be constant stop and goes.

would you put up with this ?
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:05 PM   #2
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no, move on.

you are aggravating your self and wasting time....

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Old 12-08-2018, 12:20 AM   #3
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One thing that's quite clear with my clients....I'm the boss.

I had a client who never worked a day in her life, pretty demanding and anal about everything. One day she tells me she wants an atomic clock hung outside. She starts to go about how I should hang it, I stopped her and said "I'm gonna hang this my way and you need to shut the fvck up". She bust out laughing and said "No one has ever spoke to me that way, we're going to get along just fine".

We got along great she would pay me to sit and talk for hours. First time I worked for her it was supposed be 2 weeks I was there 3 months.

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Old 12-08-2018, 12:45 AM   #4
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It's perfectly acceptable to fire a customer.
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Old 12-08-2018, 02:07 AM   #5
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In situations like this, I take the tack that I will charge hourly if I have the time to do what he wants that is fine. If I have another job that is needing attention then I do that job. If he doesn't like it then the situation will take care of itself, won't it?

Don't spend useless time with him, charge him for every minute.

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The problem with Dr's is they know more than anyone else! Ask him why his office fees are so much, to cover expenses like insurances, staff, supplies, profit etc. etc. It's the cost of doing business. No different for us. We are not in business to break even or lose money. Lay out your terms, explain about the rhythm of the job and why you want to it that way, if he agrees great, if he doesn't , shake his hand and move on.
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I'm curious what type of doctor. There are the ones that run between 5 min. appts, others with all the time in the world, etc.
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I'm curious what type of doctor. There are the ones that run between 5 min. appts, others with all the time in the world, etc.
I think he’s more like a Blazey Ford dr (Cracker Jack dr) than a Ben Carson dr. (Neurosurgeon dr).
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I think hes more like a Blazey Ford dr (Cracker Jack dr) than a Ben Carson dr. (Neurosurgeon dr).


(I think both of them would be pita customers.)
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Maybe remind him of the law of diminishing returns and the caliber of recording that he will actually be doing verses what he wishes he could produce.

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Tell him T&M or GTFO.
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Leave.
Let him squirm for a bit while he tries to find some one else.
Then next thing you know.. you get a call back and he is OK with the rate.
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thanks

you know after a while you now and then question yourself.

yes like one of you said " i should be the boss of this job"
not the client


he just sent an email
get this :
he said he wants to pay me my full rate , but only pay 20% on my workers actual pay!

yes
its time for good by
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thanks

you know after a while you now and then question yourself.

yes like one of you said " i should be the boss of this job"
not the client


he just sent an email
get this :
he said he wants to pay me my full rate , but only pay 20% on my workers actual pay!

yes
its time for good by
would if be fair if you upped your rate half way thru?
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i`ve played along for a while now ( full demo)
now , were sound-proofing
for 5 months i`ve hopped in and out of this job ( i hate it) i usually stay on a job till its done .
You've already answered your own question, but I guess we can tell you the same thing it helps...

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