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Old 11-07-2018, 08:26 PM   #1
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A customer wants meto help these worn cabinet doors and drawers.


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Old 11-07-2018, 08:44 PM   #2
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What results are you after? How much work are you willing to put into this?

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Just looking to refresh it and am unfamiliar with what it takes.

Strip, spot putty, and spray?

Damage is limited to only a few high use spots- Pantry door, silverware drawer, cutting board (?)

I don稚 wanna get too crazy with this.

Interior repairs of occupied houses are kind of a stretch for me anyway.


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Just looking to refresh it and am unfamiliar with what it takes.

Strip, spot putty, and spray?

Damage is limited to only a few high use spots- Pantry door, silverware drawer, cutting board (?)

I don稚 wanna get too crazy with this.

Interior repairs of occupied houses are kind of a stretch for me anyway.


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It appears as if they have been painted over the original finish once before.

The exposed edge looks like MDF.

They need to be cleaned very well. I use Krud Kutterr.

Sand to scuff as long as the existing top coat is sound. If it is not sound you'll be stripping them.

Feather sand where it not to bad, fill where necessary using Bondo.

Sand, clean.

Prime with Stix

Top coat with Cabinet Coat.

This will not be an easy project.

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a 150 square foot kitchen can take 100-200 hours to refinish.
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They're MDF doors with standard profiles that have already been worked on before... be a waste of time and money... you could replace those doors with new MDF doors (and painted) for less money than it would cost in your labor to clean and strip them, fill them, sand them, prime them and then paint them...

You could order whatever color paint from the company who does the doors to repair/paint the face-frames while waiting for the doors...

But it all depends on the quality you're going for and how you're setup... If you're stuck on those doors, re-running the edge profiles with a matching bit would be a lot quicker and cleaner than trying to sand/repair those edges...

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If you are wanting to do the minimum to refresh the worn areas the you can spot repair with an airbrush.
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If the customer only wants a minimum refresh of the worn areas then you can accomplish that by using an airbrush.
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They look like older thermofoil doors, I would just replace them. That is why they are chipping like that because they were not properly primed with Stix or similar primer
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Just looking to refresh it and am unfamiliar with what it takes.

Strip, spot putty, and spray?

Damage is limited to only a few high use spots- Pantry door, silverware drawer, cutting board (?)

I don’t wanna get too crazy with this.

Interior repairs of occupied houses are kind of a stretch for me anyway.


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It sounds like they just want to freshen up the look on the cheap.
If so, calculate your time to do this: sand, feather, spot putty, prime, paint or spray.

Where it's peeling the skin (thermofoil), cut it off cleanly, prime, sand, etc.
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I知 guessing thermofoil is a baked on coating.


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These are the types of jobs I say "Replace or I'm not interested".
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Thermofoil is vinyl formed and heated onto a core, normally MDF core.

I think the doors pictured are MDF with finish, not Thermofoil.

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They are Thermo (heat) foil (think along the line of shrink wrapped) and are generally heat/vacuum pressed/shaped onto (usually) MDF and unless specified will generally come with a laminate back... generally called RTF (Rigid Thermo Foil)...

Plenty of youtube manufacturer video's if you want to see it in action...
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Thermofoil is only on the fronts, many of the older types gad some type of polyester resin paint on the sides and back. That one may be all polyester resin painted which I think Home Depot sold when they first opened here under the Mills Pride label.
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It sounds like they just want to freshen up the look on the cheap.
If so, calculate your time to do this: sand, feather, spot putty, prime, paint or spray.

Where it's peeling the skin (thermofoil), cut it off cleanly, prime, sand, etc.


I think I値l give this a good old college try.



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Do yourself a favor and start with one, track the time and cost involved in doing so... present it to the customer and make sure the results and costs to do it are acceptable before doing the rest and be clear on the expectations in the paperwork...

Would suck to be on the back end of doing it to hear "I don't like it, not paying" and not have anything to back it up...


Good luck and don't forget the after pics...
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Only three doors, which is why I am even considering it.


It will definitely be a 田ontractor cannot guarantee a perfect match of paint color or finish type deals.

It痴 more of a challenge that I can learn from type of task than a money maker.


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Only three doors, which is why I am even considering it.


It will definitely be a “contractor cannot guarantee a perfect match of paint color or finish” type deals.

It’s more of a challenge that I can learn from type of task than a money maker.


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Oh, that changes things...

I thought you were redoing the whole kitchen, which is why I made the recommendations I did in previous posts... If you don't have the original paint color, would definitely do a painted sample...

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Sorry, I can see that I wasn稚 clear on the scope.

Yeah, no way I would take on something as large as a whole kitchen redo without ever having done a single door.

A newer contractor, I like to expand my knowledge and skillset as opportunities afford. This one is low risk. If nothing else I値l make a couple hundred bucks.


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