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Old 12-12-2009, 10:52 PM   #61
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That settles it, I'm getting a '67 Chev flat bed, put the Porche on the flat bed and get all the jobs.
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:42 PM   #62
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I guess I have what you may consider a "shiny" vehicle. I have been restoring it since I bought it over ten years ago. It is a good conversation starter and I think most people look at it (car guys anyway) and think that I must care a lot about the work that I do.

At least that is what I tell my wife when I need to spend money on it



I have to ask. How did you do the cab? Is it made from a 4 door Blazer?? Or, did GM have an export only 4 door GM cab that you got a hold of??
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I know some guys that are perfectionists about their vehicles with trucks that are not so new but they could not really work out of them. These are people that worry more about their stuff than doing a good job for other people.

Truck detailing is not my job. I'm a roofer.
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I have to ask. How did you do the cab? Is it made from a 4 door Blazer?? Or, did GM have an export only 4 door GM cab that you got a hold of??
GM did export first generation s-series crew cab trucks (mainly to South America) but they were converted from Blazers in 1991 and after. The rear doors on a four door S-Blazer are cut out for the rear wheel well openings which is a dead give away. Like I said this truck is a GM prototype.
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It really depends on the customer. Some look at what you drive up in and others don't really care. Just last week the homeowner was looking hard at my '09 Ram in front of his house as if that added to the price I was going to send him. In some cases I do believe that if your vehicle is way below average then the customer may question that just as much as a new one. Fact is; find the right customers and they should not care. In this economy everyone is looking for an excuse why they did not land a certain job.
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My example is a contractor that just moved into my complex. Its his only means of transportation and its a 89 G20 conversion van. Its all rusted out and has 4 different shades of blue to go with the rust stains. Its an eye sore times 20. The best is his magnet sticker, it says Alan Home improvement, lol, improvement. I think, who on earth would hire this guy??? I've seen him walk his dog too, he in in his 50's and look like a mess.

When things were good and before I got divorced I had a nice 07' Yellow Corvette. If I got a call and felt it was going to be a waste of my time and the person on the phone was on the full of themselfs, I used to pull up in the Vette. I felt they needed to know that contractors are not bottom feeders and we can actually do well for our selves, and don't waste my time. I also wanted to make a point that I was not going to be cheap, my time is worth something and pulling up in the Vette drove that point across.

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I used to pull up in the Vette. I felt they needed to know that contractors are not bottom feeders and we can actually do well for our selves, and don't waste my time. I also wanted to make a point that I was not going to be cheap, my time is worth something and pulling up in the Vette drove that point across.
I think that's a good point but there is a fine line with some customers. I never want to be the cheapest guy bidding.
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I think that's a good point but there is a fine line with some customers. I never want to be the cheapest guy bidding.
I agree there is a fine line. I did it when I felt going on the estimate was going to be a total waste of time. Although, if I became friendly with my cleints and I had to swing by to talk to them real quick, I would not be to worried about stopping by in the Vette. It was no big deal, but I was not ashamed about it. I tell all my good clients, as much as you choose me to work for you, I make that ultimate decision to work for you.

I feel our trade is a very personal one and I treat my clients homes with the utmost respect. I feel there should be a mutual respect for each other. If I feel there will not be one, I will walk from a project or price it so high that it would be worth it to be looked down upon for a few weeks or a couple of month, bad economy and all.

This brings me to the my next point. I also have a snow removal business. This morning I met with a new client and the reason why he called me because the guy he used (A roofer) went out of business. So we started talking numbers and when I mentioned the salt numbers he started sweating. Then I went on to say, since I know he had some sort of respect for me, there is a reason why the roofer you used went out of business, he was too cheap. I told him if I cant get at least 25 bucks on a bag, its not worth for me to get out of my truck and service his property. He agreed and its a nice 200-300 buck snow contract that will take me 30-35 minutes to service.

I try to not work for the "bottom feeder" clients, I never have and never will.

To get back on subject, most times I take my car out on estimates becaue it has a built in GPS. I dress respectful and I do not plaster myself with my company name all over me unless I'm going on an estimate right after work which is rare. I feel my 2 business cards and my new client sheet that all my new/ potential clients fill out is enough to get my company across. I have a 04' express white van that is paid off and is white. Its not shiny white, but its clean and respectful. When this Van dies on me I will buy a new van and do it all over again, only with the 10 ft bed

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I think the best balance for me is a 3/4 yr old truck that looks like it's taken care of.


3/4 yr old =50% depreciated.

As a homeowner When choosing a tradesman,

I would put an estimator showing up in a vette in the cons colums.
I don't want to pay for a guys excesses.
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Okay I was talking with a HO that we did work for about two years ago and she ask me "Hey what happen to your other truck" (which was 100% loss about month ago). I told her what happen and told her I was NOT buying another I took my "work" truck and put some cash in it and that was my primary now. I thought of this tread and ask her the question, and she said "No it really does'nt matter to me, I would rather see someone pull up clean cut with their sh!t together than a new truck or a shiny truck. So that's where I am staying shes a work horse, 1993 GMC 2500 service truck I just dropped a new 350 crate in new 700 tranny, fuel pump and exhaust (like's them quite) maybe a vinyl wrap mid summer. I plan on keeping her forever :-)
should have gone th400
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It really depends on the customer. Some look at what you drive up in and others don't really care. Just last week the homeowner was looking hard at my '09 Ram in front of his house as if that added to the price I was going to send him. In some cases I do believe that if your vehicle is way below average then the customer may question that just as much as a new one.
The customer's perceptions of what the neighbors think may also be a factor. Everyone has to keep up with the Jones.

Many customers in an upscale neighborhood don't want the neighbors to think that they are cheapskates when they see the contractors rotted out 20 year old pickup parked in the driveway.

Of course, they are cheapskates...they just don't want the neighbors to know.


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I In this economy everyone is looking for an excuse why they did not land a certain job.
The guys making excuses aren't making money.
The guys making money aren't making excuses.
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I guess I have what you may consider a "shiny" vehicle. I have been restoring it since I bought it over ten years ago. It is a good conversation starter and I think most people look at it (car guys anyway) and think that I must care a lot about the work that I do.

At least that is what I tell my wife when I need to spend money on it


I gotta ask: What toy you got under the cover in the garage? (back ground pic 2)
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should have gone th400

I don't think it works with efi.
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I gotta ask: What toy you got under the cover in the garage? (back ground pic 2)
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I don't think how new a truck is really matters. I do think how clean the truck is matters though. That being said. My truck is usually a mess on the inside. And the 96 F250 is really showing its age with the rust now. And yes, both of these things drive me crazy.
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I gotta ask: What toy you got under the cover in the garage? (back ground pic 2)
Thats a unit of pristine cherry and a half lift of 5x5 Baltic birch on top. Kept neatly under cover as to not sun burn since it's so close to the door.

Don't let him kid you otherwise.I know his type.
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I think it's not so much a new truck like people said but a presentable truck.. Also looking presentable
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My question for the CrewCab 1st Gen S10 is what is under the hood...I don't think it would be a lowly 2.8 or 2.5. I would gess a 4.3 if it was a V6, but with the exhaust, I want to say you have an 8. For no other reason then you have dual tail pipes of a decent diameter.
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should have gone th400
I have a 96 3/4 ton chevy w/ a 350 eng. and a 4L60E trans. These trucks already get terrible gas mileage, 11.5- 12 mpgs, and turn high rpms on the e-way w/ the overdrive. Going to a th400 would make the mpg's even worse. It would take more than just a trans to swap em, you'd also have to switch the gears so you could still go 70mph and you'd still get terrible mpgs. Besides, if you build it right, a 700 or the 4L60 will hold up as good as a th400.
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Hey bam bam, yeah you may not hire me but I have stayed in Business now for 24 years so your New Truck theory is for the birdsit just goes to show you that you don't know what your talking about, youngster
Hey bam bam you keep buying those new trucks buddy I'll spend my money on other thing
oh yeah bam bam how would I carry the scalfolding if I had ladder racks

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