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Old 12-16-2009, 12:06 PM   #41
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Why would you throw this "should have" stuff back in someones face for such a simple job??. This Incident can & does happen to Plumbers too!!!
Do you think everyone is incompetent at doing little jobs that is not in their "professional " title???

Sometimes, one is way out of their field-but not in cases like this----- we have to be reasonable here We must stop this kind of replies !!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree. If I understand the OP correctly, he was removing the supply hoses for the lav, when the pipe broke. It seems reasonable that a tradesman could be expected to close valves and remove hoses. The OP caught some bad luck.
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:26 PM   #42
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:30 PM   #43
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Thanks for all the replies guys, I will live to fight another day and I can tell you if I see a shut off with a micron of rust on it I am going for the main valve. Or at least I am going to make a point to know where it is. Although thank good my helper was like greased lightning when I shouted to him, he was in the basement and had the main on the hot water heated off in less than 10 seconds. Needless to say I was buying him the beers the other night.
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If I can I like to work with the main off, Im always afraid of dropping something and breaking a pipe off and having this happen. Cant do it when there is people in the house though.
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oh wow this reminds me of a little screw up i had at my new job a couple weeks ago. (for those of you who dont know i've taken on a job driving a truck an appliance store until things pick up and i can get back into construction full time, i'm still doing it on the weekends and when the work comes in, anywho).


we hook up the appliances we deliver and that means shutting off the water. we are at this very old house delivering a washer/dryer. when we unhooked the old washer, the simmons valve was leaking so we hooked the hoses back up, and went to the basement to find the main. i go down and see a shut off valve directly underneath the washer, i turn it off. me and the other kid come up, he said he found the main and shut it off. i shrugged my shoulders and we continued the job.


once the washer and dryer was all hooked up he downstairs and turned the main on, and it was water world in the kitchen. we were scrambling to find out where the heck this water was coming from, all we saw was a bunch of water coming out from under a heater. what i actually did was open an old water line for an old wall heater. instead of the plumber disconnecting the valve and re-piping the area, he just snipped the water line after the shut off. oh well. learned my lesson and it didnt do any damage.
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I sortof caused a little water accident once. I put a addition on a rental house my dad has. When I was drilling a hole to run a waste stack I seen a few wood ships go down the drain for the washer. I stopped and put a bLowes bag over it. Months later when we got the washer hooked up the old lady called saying it backed up and ran all over the floor, this was teh first time it was used. For some reason the all new drain pipes wouldnt drain and it was all under the new concrete floor. To fix the problem I broke into the washer drain inside the block wall foundation from outside and ran it into the sewer outside the house. When I cut into it I found some concrete in the pipe and the wood chips blocking what little opening was left. I have no idea how the concrete got in there.
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Why would you throw this "should have" stuff back in someones face for such a simple job??. This Incident can & does happen to Plumbers too!!!
Do you think everyone is incompetent at doing little jobs that is not in their "professional " title???

Sometimes, one is way out of their field-but not in cases like this----- we have to be reasonable here We must stop this kind of replies !!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr Mike You are so right I was feeling that I had gone into an area that I should not, but seriously if I cannot change out a vanity with out calling a plumber then I should pack my bag.
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Did you guys see this sentance in my first post.

"I have told my customer that although I don't think it was my fault. I do take responsibility for the damage and will do what ever is needed,"

I am of course going to fix the ceiling in the kitchen, at no cost and what ever else is needed.

I was so angry at myself, I have done alot of bathrooms and never had a stub out just snap. I guess I was in denial, that it was completely my fault.
Maybe just looking for a shoulder to cry on
Not looking to get out of anything, my companies integrity means more than sheet rocking a ceiling out of my pocket.
Words like, "I don't think it was my fault." shouldn't even come out of our mouths around the customer.... period. The mere utterance of them negates the positive impression of any promise of restitution or responsibility you may say afterward.

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