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Old 12-31-2016, 07:30 PM   #1
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One of the things I learned a long time ago as a carpenter is always understand why you're doing whatever it is you're doing, always ask questions. If something doesn't make sense in your head, you think something might be wrong. Chances are you're right, something is being over looked, left out, or directions are being misinterpreted.

And if you're on the opposite end, say you're the guy in charge. Don't get uptight when someone asks a question. I disagree with the notion of a manager or lead carpenter saying "Just do what you're told." I think it's the impatience or ignorance that causes a lot of failed projects. I see stuff like this way too often.

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Old 12-31-2016, 08:50 PM   #2
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You are giving people too much credit, If everyone could see the bigger picture of what they are doing they wouldn't be the grunt doing it!

The same reason the man in charge is so impatient is because he is constantly dealing with people second guessing his decisions. It gets old very quick, It is not something you want to deal with. I have dealt with these type of people in the past and they can not see past their own ideas.

Those photos you have shown are plan layout errors, and we all know the people doing this knew it made no sense, but the plans said it so they did it. And that's how it works.
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You are giving people too much credit, If everyone could see the bigger picture of what they are doing they wouldn't be the grunt doing it!

The same reason the man in charge is so impatient is because he is constantly dealing with people second guessing his decisions. It gets old very quick, It is not something you want to deal with.
There is a lot of people who want to give their opinion for the sake of hearing their own voice. Those people need to be shut down
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LOL this is great!! HAHA I got a kick outta the door way up there. YEESH
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Commercial--I get paid to install it. I'm not the architect, I'm not the GC, I'm the installer and I install. If you want it undone, I'll undo it after I install it, then install something else, but first, I'm going to install what I am paid to install.

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I've seen doors up high like that before. In my experience they are used to get things upstairs that wouldn't be able to go up the stairway. Especially in the case of "L" or "U" shaped stairs.

My rule is that if I do what the print says, I'm not liable.
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I've seen doors up high like that before. In my experience they are used to get things upstairs that wouldn't be able to go up the stairway. Especially in the case of "L" or "U" shaped stairs.
I hope they have a sign on the other side "Watch your step".
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I've seen doors up high like that before. In my experience they are used to get things upstairs that wouldn't be able to go up the stairway. Especially in the case of "L" or "U" shaped stairs.

My rule is that if I do what the print says, I'm not liable.
Definitely not true.
A court looks at you as a construction professional and in the event of a gross error on the plans you should recognize this and take appropriate steps to correct the issue.



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My rule is that if I do what the print says, I'm not liable.
Ha. You build that winding stair the way the architect drew it with all the winding treads pointing to the apex and see who gets the red tag, you or the architect.
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You are giving people too much credit.
Sometimes I do, but I think you know what I mean. If your worker continues to argue even after you tell him not to worry, or if he flat out refuses to do what he's told then he needs to be yelled at and/or terminated. But if he brings something up simply so he can understand what's going on and avoid mistakes then you need to listen or you will be the one paying.

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I've seen doors up high like that before. In my experience they are used to get things upstairs that wouldn't be able to go up the stairway. Especially in the case of "L" or "U" shaped stairs.

My rule is that if I do what the print says, I'm not liable.
You also have to remember the first page on any set of prints will say must confirm to building code. If you build something out of code even though it illustrates it on the prints, technically you are not doing what the print says. Architects always make mistakes that are building code violations but you have to be the one to catch them. If he draws a door and forgets that door is on another level then you can't just build it that way and put a door up to the ceiling. Building code says doors require a landing in front of them. And you already signed a contract saying you will build to prints while the prints say must confirm to current building code.

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