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Old 09-04-2019, 08:27 AM   #1
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What to do?

Half of me wants to say something and the other half wants me to let these homeowners dig themselves a hole.

I wouldn't have as much of an issue with it but the kid is advertising tiling tubs as well as plumbing.

From my understanding under 18 and you cannot operate power tools or complete demolition tasks.

I would also assume that he doesn't have a legal company he is running payroll through so every home owner who hires him is hiring him as an employee.

And if he's under 18 he doesn't have insurance.

I want to say something but don't want to look like a dick.

How would you handle it?

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Old 09-04-2019, 08:30 AM   #2
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I believe the rule is, an under 18 employee cannot do a hazardous job in Illinois. Don't know if this would apply if he os the owner.

Maybe he's an emancipated minor?

Maybe talk to the kid, he sounds ambitious. We all started somewhere at sometime.

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Caveat emptor. Let folks figure it out for themselves.
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Could he work as an IC and file a schedule C...as a way to can get around being an employee? If he earns more than $600, he should get a 1099 from the homeowner though.

I think Iíd talk to him too...maybe ask if heís working with or training under someone? Compliment something about his photos? Consider hiring him when he turns 18?

Perhaps you could express your concern with his safety and risk of injury?

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I wouldn’t worry about it, no way anyone is going to hire him to do anything beyond the yard work he mentions first. Probably not even that.
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I think he needs to stay in school and focus on his English Composition skills.


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Entrepreneurs under 18 are the only ones I give leeway to as far as working for cash.
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Says he's a junior in high school looking to do various odd jobs... they probably know he's not 18, and all the issues that come along with that (no insurance for one), but there's lots of people willing to give an industrious young man a shot at work that's not considered dangerous...

Something tells me if he was "advertising" his "electrician skills" people wouldn't use him for that... if an adult can't discern between hiring a kid doing odd jobs and a pro, they've got bigger issues...

To me, it'd be almost akin to reporting a kid with a lemonade stand for no permit, health-certificate, etc... people know what they're getting in those situations...

Hope things aren't so tight that THAT's who you're competing with TNT...

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Who would you say something to? HO, kid, AHJ, ???
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He seems to be in the top 10% of contractors already.
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If that was Tipi, someone would have turned him in and he'd already be arguing in court.
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What to do?



Half of me wants to say something and the other half wants me to let these homeowners dig themselves a hole.



I wouldn't have as much of an issue with it but the kid is advertising tiling tubs as well as plumbing.



From my understanding under 18 and you cannot operate power tools or complete demolition tasks.



I would also assume that he doesn't have a legal company he is running payroll through so every home owner who hires him is hiring him as an employee.



And if he's under 18 he doesn't have insurance.



I want to say something but don't want to look like a dick.



How would you handle it?



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Hire the kid. Sounds like a hustler in a good way; just needs some direction.
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We all know someone is going to get this kid in way over his head or the kid himself
Here is my thinking at 17 how has he learnt or had the time to aquire the skill and tools to perform the work and know the difference between good and bad.
He may well be a good candidate to hire as a employee if he has EARS and no phone and a small mouth.
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I think you should leave well enough alone or possibly give the kid a pat on the back for getting off his rear end and trying to do something to make a few bucks. Good on him, wish there were more kids like this.
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100 years ago, that's how this country was built.

And 1,000 years before that, that's how Europe was built.

All the laws and rules and regulations and insurance requirements in this country have done, is suck the life out of it.

Everybody is scared $#!Tless to get out of bed, unless there is some company underwriting every possible scenario that could go wrong.

Time was, a 10 year kid went out to work on his family farm, with his father and uncles and brothers. He worked around large animals, machinery, and helped build barns and houses.

And those generations grew up with balls.

Now, it's no wonder everyone is emasculated. If they don't whack their junk off themselves, society is ready to do it for them.

Maybe I'm a bit of an outlaw, what with growing up in NorCal and all, but I don't have an overwhelming sense of awe towards rules. Rules and regulations and insurance don't protect people, people taking personal responsibility for their own actions can.
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I’m just surprised this thread hasn’t been moved to P&R.
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It will, son, it will.

Just give it time.


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All props to the young mad for being ambitious, and not just sitting in a room with a cell phone in front of him.
However, at 17 he simply does not have enough training or experience.
Unfortunately, plenty of potential clients won't give a **** about his age and will hire him strictly on price. And a goodly number of THOSE people will be total assholes and will demand at least double the amount of labour agreed on and will be incredibly picky about the quality of work. I feel sorry for the kid.
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And there are also plenty of little jobs to be done, that some of us would tell the client it's not worth our time to do, "Sorry ma'am, that wouldn't pay for me to roll over in bed".

Maybe someone just wants 2 dozen 3x12's installed above the countertop. None of us here would stoop to do that.

And if one is a little crooked, and the client doesn't care, and the kid learned something, and made a couple bucks, and the client got a job done for a cheap price, who cares. Not like it's gonna kill anyone.

Better than him eating Cheatos in his moms basement, exploring how many "genders" he might have today.

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