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Old 03-15-2014, 10:40 AM   #1
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Anyone here does that?
whats the process involved where you live?
I see it being done here before, i seen the house giving away for free, they just have to get it moved.
how old and sturdy is strong enough to be moved ?

Just for my own curiosity, i highly doubt ill be going into the business
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:56 AM   #2
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We had an old barn raised and the coming doing it was also house movers. When they showed up we thought it was going to be a problem because the barn was in really rough shape by my standards. They said it was in great shape compared to what they were used too. They said they can pretty much move any house no matter how bad it just requires some more steel and wood to shore it up.

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The complications never end. Generally it must be permitted and approved with current codes applying. That means new wiring, heating & a/c, plumbing, insulation, windows, doors, etc.

Probably needs a roof anyway, will probably require replacement siding and drywall work to replace damaged and failing plaster.

So, what exactly do you save? Framing? and at what cost?
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This house was just moved a mile and half. The house was purchased for a grand and moved and reset for over $400,000. Pretty cool to watch the process.

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The generator on the side powered the drive wheels and would raise and lower the wheels to keep the house level. Look up Wolf house movers for more pics and info
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This house was just moved a mile and half. The house was purchased for a grand and moved and reset for over $400,000. Pretty cool to watch the process. The generator on the side powered the drive wheels and would raise and lower the wheels to keep the house level. Look up Wolf house movers for more pics and info
holy crap, that's amazing. Stone? It looks like the stone is still in good shape too.
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The advertisements for a free building, just move it many times are attempts to appease local authorities, who may not want to issue a demo permit without other options being explored first. There can also be objections to demo from community groups if the building has some significance to them. Other times, it's an attempt to avoid demo costs.

You can move anything, but the economics are a whole different story.
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The advertisements for a free building, just move it many times are attempts to appease local authorities, who may not want to issue a demo permit without other options being explored first. There can also be objections to demo from community groups if the building has some significance to them. Other times, it's an attempt to avoid demo costs. You can move anything, but the economics are a whole different story.
A few years ago I went to a seminar, I guess you could call it, on deconstruction as an alternative to demolition. If it works out right, the high cost of labor for deconstruction are offset by tax credits and write offs. It was sponsored by the Chicago rebuilding exchange and ken Ortiz who runs a deconstruction and salvage operation. I'd really like to see more materials salvaged and reused but the tight economics of the construction industry don't usually leave room for that option.
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A few years ago I went to a seminar, I guess you could call it, on deconstruction as an alternative to demolition. If it works out right, the high cost of labor for deconstruction are offset by tax credits and write offs. It was sponsored by the Chicago rebuilding exchange and ken Ortiz who runs a deconstruction and salvage operation. I'd really like to see more materials salvaged and reused but the tight economics of the construction industry don't usually leave room for that option.
Post and beam barns can work out, and sometimes old mill buildings. They can be very fast to take apart, with a lot of useable lumber and not much left for disposal.
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Did someone mention moving old houses?

This happens to be a topic that I have a special interest in!!









And my favorite - right here in Norfolk:
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1930s house, must be moved, in Dartmouth, MA. It has some very unusual interior trim:

http://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa...06&acctid=4319

Not free, but min bid is $10.
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In that case, you'll need a team of oxen for every 30,000 lbs of house if it's wheeled or rollered. Canadian teams are generally better than US teams, so you're in the right place
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This house was just moved a mile and half. The house was purchased for a grand and moved and reset for over $400,000. Pretty cool to watch the process.
That is awesome! There are several historic areas in Maryland and I am curious how often stuff like this happens. It seems tricky and kind of dangerous, but as long as the person moving it does their job, all should go well! Thanks for sharing!
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That is awesome! There are several historic areas in Maryland and I am curious how often stuff like this happens. It seems tricky and kind of dangerous, but as long as the person moving it does their job, all should go well! Thanks for sharing!
It used to be done a lot. If someone wanted a new house, they might sell their existing to someone who moved it to a vacant lot close by. Others were moved miles by boat.
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I have been involved in a few house moves here in the Old Towne district of Orange.

They really are a lot of fun to watch how the guys put it all together and move it.

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It used to be done a lot. If someone wanted a new house, they might sell their existing to someone who moved it to a vacant lot close by. Others were moved miles by boat.
In 1921, there were 65 houses moved from Penniman, Virginia (a DuPont WW1 munitions plant) to Norfolk, and they were all moved by barge (two houses per barge).

Amazing for 1921!
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Speaking of moving barns, this one is 14,000 sf, and was down the hiway from where I grew up. Threw hay there, as every kid worth their salt did "back in the day".

They semi-dismantled/moved it quite a few miles over to a county park.

http://www.oxfordleader.com/Articles...-new-home.html

It was always incredibly well maintained. Nowadays, its used for weddings and such - no hay or horsie smells left, I expect...
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Nowadays, its used for weddings and such - no hay or horsie smells left, I expect...
If they left the stall boards in, get them wet and it'll still smell like hoss p*ss.
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In 1921, there were 65 houses moved from Penniman, Virginia (a DuPont WW1 munitions plant) to Norfolk, and they were all moved by barge (two houses per barge).

Amazing for 1921!
There's one that was moved across a bay and up a river - maybe more than 20 miles somewhere around 1820. 2 story, roughly 1000 sqft per floor. Don't know if it was moved on a sledge when everything iced over, which was also common, or barged.
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While we are on the subject.
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That's a big house but 400K......... ouch!

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