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Old 08-11-2017, 05:21 PM   #21
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Most of these guys are just going through a list of newly registered domains.

Had a guy call me yesterday and starts going on about how he was going through my site when I stop him and ask how that can be possible when the address doesn't actually point to a site yet he just hung up the phone

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Old 08-16-2017, 10:39 AM   #22
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Had a moment to have fun today. Got an email that said "We spent 2 hours analyzing your site ... ". It went on to say the traditional like "Your title tags need to be optimized, you need links, you need pictures, you need video, etc., etc.".

So I replied "Good morning, thanks so much for spending that time. When can we speak?".

I had a phone call within less than a minute.

I did this while having coffee around 6:30am.

1st minute was met with "Good Morning, we see you are interested in getting your website better, can you give us the website address you wish to talk about?"

I said it is the one they spent the 2 hours reviewing tied to the email you sent me.

They danced around the question and did not have an answer, so I said just use the email that I sent and they still were playing games.

So I then said let's forget about it since it is obvious you were just spamming and did not spend 2 hours.

The guy said "Before you hang up, is there anything else we could do to possibly work with us?

I said "Absolutely, since you spent 2 hours reviewing my site and sent me an email, just tell me my website address!"

Next thing I heard was a click .... Almost better than reading the morning paper for amusement.
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Had fun with another scenario, and it was also a clever way for a lead gen company to get to me.

Solicitation came in telling me there were alarming topics pertaining to my Domain Authority going down. So I played the game, of course getting an inbound call from an untraceable phone number. Guy goes on to tell me they were doing some research on service contractors and came about my company. Mind you, I am not a service contractor but rather a service provide to contractors.

Anyhow, he says they were just checking out my site and their specialized tools tool them that I am taking some severe hits on the Domain Authority and perhaps they can introduce themselves. So I played it out for fun and said "What do you think is a good Domain Authority for this industry?". Like clockwork he answered with a question and said "Probably much better than your goals, what do you target?".

So I said I hear anything in the industry that is good can be somewhere between 10 and 20, and the real good companies can even get a Domain Authority higher than 20. He answered like a robot and said that is pretty much true which is why I am calling you.

So I joked and said "So MyOnlineToolbox having a Domain Authority of almost double that is considered taking severe hits?". He stumbled and met his match, but then surprised me by saying "Well perhaps SEO issues may not be a concern and you may be thinking of also working with our Lead Generation Services."

It is clear as day he did not visit my site, nor perhaps even know what to look for if he did.

Seems like these solicitors just keep making stuff up to see what unsuspecting folk take the bite. For me, I will continue to use these to build up my warning lists and also enjoy the amusement since it seems my company is on some form of list that will just make it impossible for the solicitor to feel good about themselves once they connect with me. God knows who else is having fun, just avoids it all like, or perhaps gives them an earful using phrases not able to be posted here.
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A new scam surfaced using a valid topic. Many websites do not have a Digital Certificate, so their sites are not secured. This is covered in another thread, but it is plainly visible when looking at your website address. Using this Forum as an example, not the website address starts with https://www.contactortalk.com . The s to the right of http is what I am referencing.

Many things can happen when you do not have a Digital Certificate. One is your rankings "may" be diminished. And from a cosmetic perspective, people may be getting warnings along the lines of WHOA! Do you want to continue since this website is not secure.

The scammers are sending emails that take your website address and simply impose the scary message as if this is what people are seeing. They use that as a way for you to Click to Learn More. The explain the same problem, and then add "while we are talking about the Digital Certificate, perhaps you want to know about .... " and then they dump a whole bunch of SEO mumbo jumbo to begin the sales pitch.

Yes, the Digital Certificate is a valid topic, but that can be done by your web company and does not require a SEO upgrade since that is a different topic. Got to admit, this guys are crafty in how they break through.
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A new scam surfaced using a valid topic. Many websites do not have a Digital Certificate, so their sites are not secured. This is covered in another thread, but it is plainly visible when looking at your website address. Using this Forum as an example, not the website address starts with https://www.contactortalk.com . The s to the right of http is what I am referencing.

Many things can happen when you do not have a Digital Certificate. One is your rankings "may" be diminished. And from a cosmetic perspective, people may be getting warnings along the lines of WHOA! Do you want to continue since this website is not secure.

The scammers are sending emails that take your website address and simply impose the scary message as if this is what people are seeing. They use that as a way for you to Click to Learn More. The explain the same problem, and then add "while we are talking about the Digital Certificate, perhaps you want to know about .... " and then they dump a whole bunch of SEO mumbo jumbo to begin the sales pitch.

Yes, the Digital Certificate is a valid topic, but that can be done by your web company and does not require a SEO upgrade since that is a different topic. Got to admit, this guys are crafty in how they break through.
Just joined this forum because I love how constructive a lot of the info here is. All of MOTB's scenarios are extremely accurate to beware of.

No good SEO person should ever use intimidating subject lines to start conversation. A lot of websites could be improved, and there's never just 1 thing that holds back rankings. Any SEO person you work with should be primarily concerned with getting you results and an ROI, not some "dangerous" thing needing to be fixed. When I come across very bad websites, it actually makes me more enthusiastic that there's a high potential for growth for the business.

Another thing is that SEO should never feel like a risky investment to you. Even since I first started off with online marketing, I never formed contracts with clients because I had expert mentors and extensive training. I think contracts pretty much always mean the company/freelancer is insecure with their ability to provide results. Marketing that is properly done will have you excited to continue investing, since you'll be getting a much larger return than you spend. And MOTB is right that no good SEO person should rush you into a deal. His logic is that they should be busy if they're actually good - but honestly, even if they aren't as busy as they could be, they should respect that you're making a large investment and considering a long-term partnership. To be honest, the SEO person you work with should be able to tell you with 100% transparency what they're doing. It's not that SEO is beyond anyone's understanding, it just takes a lot of time and money invested in the right places.

Looking forward to contributing and learning alongside everyone here!

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