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Old 07-14-2015, 11:55 AM   #21
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I'm not sure what else I would have received from this a so called qualified professional. Both freelancers were nothing but Professional.

I find out hard to believe I got that lucky with two. They both did several revisions and the one that I didn't like refused payment.

I started looking yesterday for content writers and have narrowed it down to three. I'll let everyone know how this experience goes.
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"So called"? Rob, that's pretty strong undertone, don't you think?

I'm really not looking for anything beyond a good discussion where we can all gain different perspective even if we don't agree. If anything I said was interpreted to mean you can't get satisfactory work this way, I thought I was plenty clear I didn't mean that.

At the risk of beating a proverbial horse, your statement about not knowing how much more you could have received comes from a position of not having experienced it so you could know. Trying to describe the process in a forum post would be too long and too generic. Every situation is unique. An effective logo is created based on that uniqueness.

I know from our interactions over the years where you stand. You would consider it unthinkable to invest hundreds or a few thousand into a logo. That decision is yours to make and I would never argue with you about it or pass judgment on you for it. You're obviously experiencing the level of success you want. You can't ask for more than that.

What would be wrong is for either of us to project our own position as the right one for everybody. It's one thing to consider say $1000 for a logo to be a bad decision for your business. It's another to consider it to be a bad decision for any business. Free enterprise is wonderful. It allows you to get a $54 logo from someone willing to work for pennies, and it allows me to service business owners that value the services I provide. It allows all of us the right to run our business any way we want.
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Great result for $54.
Echoing CBS in my not soo elegant ways...

Nothing wrong per se with it. Great value for what you got in terms of files and such also.

Frankly I'm surprised at what you decided on. Your logo thread had me expecting something of a 'Higher Quality" graphic in nature and appearance. Based on your approach, the questions you were asking ect. And most interestingly your approach to quality and how you appear to work based on your "presence" here in the forum. From a 'visual communications' stand point - artsy speak ; You and your logo don't seem to align with the message I imagine you present to your customers. Sure your choices are justifiable and if your happy with it ...

But it's kind of like THIS
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"So called"? Rob, that's pretty strong undertone, don't you think?

I'm really not looking for anything beyond a good discussion where we can all gain different perspective even if we don't agree. If anything I said was interpreted to mean you can't get satisfactory work this way, I thought I was plenty clear I didn't mean that.

At the risk of beating a proverbial horse, your statement about not knowing how much more you could have received comes from a position of not having experienced it so you could know. Trying to describe the process in a forum post would be too long and too generic. Every situation is unique. An effective logo is created based on that uniqueness.

I know from our interactions over the years where you stand. You would consider it unthinkable to invest hundreds or a few thousand into a logo. That decision is yours to make and I would never argue with you about it or pass judgment on you for it. You're obviously experiencing the level of success you want. You can't ask for more than that.

What would be wrong is for either of us to project our own position as the right one for everybody. It's one thing to consider say $1000 for a logo to be a bad decision for your business. It's another to consider it to be a bad decision for any business. Free enterprise is wonderful. It allows you to get a $54 logo from someone willing to work for pennies, and it allows me to service business owners that value the services I provide. It allows all of us the right to run our business any way we want.
Not any more than you saying you will not get the sane kind of attention from a freelancer on elance.com than you would a qualified professional.

I wouldn't consider it because I'm an accomplished artist myself. I also don't think that it matters as much as one would have you believe. I know plenty of multi million dollar operations with crappy logos. I know guys that have two houses the finest cars, boats and lots of toys with no logo.

So that coupled with my artistic talents I think it's laughable to pay an artist to come up with some logos.

And I actually know more about the process than you think I do. A mutual friend introduced me to a graphic artist two years ago when I started to consider a professional logo. We had an intro meeting and discussed my business. He have me a 5 page questionnaire and we proceeded with the process. It was going to cost about a grand to have it made up. After a few weeks of careful consideration I decided I didn't have the cash on hand to lay out that kind of $.

So I am willing to pay that kind of cash for a logo. It was in a thread here someone mentioned it when I posted about a new logo 6 months or so ago. I figured what did I have to lose a hundred bucks maybe? Turned out to be a great process.

And I NEVER suggested it was the only solution for everybody. I just suggested it. I believe it was you who poopooed the idea and stated listing general definitive statements that were the opposite and somewhat misleading to my experience.

They all are not in foreign countries. They are not all lowest of the bottom feeders. It was very easy to steer clear of them. That's all. I just gave my experience. I never said that it was the solution for everyone.
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Echoing CBS in my not soo elegant ways...

Nothing wrong per se with it. Great value for what you got in terms of files and such also.

Frankly I'm surprised at what you decided on. Your logo thread had me expecting something of a 'Higher Quality" graphic in nature and appearance. Based on your approach, the questions you were asking ect. And most interestingly your approach to quality and how you appear to work based on your "presence" here in the forum. From a 'visual communications' stand point - artsy speak ; You and your logo don't seem to align with the message I imagine you present to your customers. Sure your choices are justifiable and if your happy with it ...

But it's kind of like THIS
I've had many unsolicited compliments on my new logo. It's clean simple and easy to recognize. It's not goofy like Menards as you suggest and plays off of a suggestion that Angus made. KISS. However, I did use a hammer but that was my desire from the beginning. I got exactly what I was looking for. Brand recognition.
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I've had many unsolicited compliments on my new logo. It's clean simple and easy to recognize. It's not goofy like Menards as you suggest and plays off of a suggestion that Angus made. KISS. However, I did use a hammer but that was my desire from the beginning. I got exactly what I was looking for. Brand recognition.
Just tossing out my observations, Rob. If you like it, it fits your criteria that is all that counts. I don't feel the graphics and such is invaluable to a business model based on referrals. Just really figured you'd go over the top with the logo.

Just having some fun with the menards jingle, laugh a little! Maybe even all the way to the bank. 54 vs 500+ = you saved big money.
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Just tossing out my observations, Rob. If you like it, it fits your criteria that is all that counts. I don't feel the graphics and such is invaluable to a business model based on referrals. Just really figured you'd go over the top with the logo.

Just having some fun with the menards jingle, laugh a little! Maybe even all the way to the bank. 54 vs 500+ = you saved big money.
I took no offense. I just don't always write with the greatest of inflection.
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Thank you, JBM, for moving this thread back on topic. It strayed plenty long enough!
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Thank you, JBM, for moving this thread back on topic. It strayed plenty long enough!
Weird, I seem to remember someone being apart of that straying.
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That's one...now for the other? Oh yeah the guy that thank you for getting it back on track because it had strayed for too long do to his, as well as my, need to complete a thought and discussion.
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I think the discussion was pretty well on track until the last couple rounds at which point I was done participating in the drift. Like I said earlier, the principles of a logo and writing have a lot of crossover.

I did enjoy our discussion, TNT, and I'm sure the others here weren't bored with it. You can always be counted on to add seasoning complete with colorful expressions. The fact that I'm capable of poopooing my ideas is quite amusing.

Don't stop now though, you wouldn't want to risk losing your Troublemaker badge.
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That's one...now for the other? Oh yeah the guy that thank you for getting it back on track because it had strayed for too long do to his, as well as my, need to complete a thought and discussion.
I dont know what that means, and i suspect you dont know what i mean, so carry on.
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I dont know what that means, and i suspect you dont know what i mean, so carry on.
Just because you don't get it doesn't mean you have to take it out on others.

It means that I wasn't the only guy in that discussion. The very guy that thanked you for getting it back on topic was the very one I was rabbit trailing with.
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Just because you don't get it doesn't mean you have to take it out on others.

It means that I wasn't the only guy in that discussion. The very guy that thanked you for getting it back on topic was the very one I was rabbit trailing with.

??

You sound like a chick man, ive never even begun to ever take anything out on anyone here. I was making a real quick post in an attempt to get you to realize you may not want to post your new content on your current site.
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How dare anyone make fun of Menards....
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You sound like a chick man, ive never even begun to ever take anything out on anyone here. I was making a real quick post in an attempt to get you to realize you may not want to post your new content on your current site.
You gotta use qoutes. If you read the thread I just asked who else was in the straying of the thread. Just thought you were giving me a hard time.

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