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Old 05-31-2015, 11:32 AM   #21
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Here are my Google Places results. I do still have some work to do, but am happy with the results. WIX makes it super easy, but I will admit that after getting my logo resigned I will be rebuilding my site and moving away from WIX.

The main reason is that WIX sites cannot be exported to other hosts. I want a bit of freedom in that area. I will also be working with a pro as I will no longer have the time to maintain my site. I just hired my first employee and should be hiring the second in the next year. We are also moving away from a do it all contractor and using more subs.
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Before you hire a just a "web" guy consider finding a marketing proffessional/s who have a proven track record in web/online advertising, branding,exposure, what ever. They are more than a 'Jockey riding a user interface for wix, weebly, wordpress".

My website is returning low numbers of hits, leads for two reasons.
1) I have not been utilizing and acting on my MOTB resources - AKA actively increasing pages, adding content, and focusing keywords-Content. The website alone does very little.

2)You need to drive people to the site and get them to write a review or contact you for services- take action==== marketing Unless you have a very unique service. The days of a website being stand alone for marketing are over.

Bamm, TNT, JBM all get decent volume of leads from their sites. It did not happen all by itself. It was not just SEO, but a comprehensive approach greater than the Website alone. An indication of any approach is missing in the OP's site. Great place holder but not much more than that- right now
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A website is a tool just like a hammer... a website won't get you all of your work by itself just like a hammer won't be the only thing you use to build a house.

I'm looking to get the most out of this site, I sure wasnt looking to drum up all my work from it. I know without hiring a professional it will be limited in what it will provide me.
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I would never use a free website builder(Wix, Weebly, etc) for a legit business. Hosting is cheap for a standalone site $65 for a year. Wordpress CMS is easy to work with and thousands of free themes to choose from. I know people can afford the extra $75 a year for the domain($10) and Hosting ($65).

Your site doesn't really have any content. Google would probably give you a "Thin Content" penalty. Business owners need to start taking an online presence serious. Each year more and more people are moving to online searching. A website shouldn't be a short term idea. Create it correctly to last/rank for years to come.
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I would never use a free website builder(Wix, Weebly, etc) for a legit business. Hosting is cheap for a standalone site $65 for a year. Wordpress CMS is easy to work with and thousands of free themes to choose from. I know people can afford the extra $75 a year for the domain($10) and Hosting ($65).

Your site doesn't really have any content. Google would probably give you a "Thin Content" penalty. Business owners need to start taking an online presence serious. Each year more and more people are moving to online searching. A website shouldn't be a short term idea. Create it correctly to last/rank for years to come.
Mine is WIX and I am a legit contractor. Works great! First page results and I get compliments on it all of the time.
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The thing I'd have a problem with sites such as Wix is how long will they be around. It's easy to invest thousands of dollars into a website (content,SEO,etc) if you can't do it yourself. If Wix isn't around in 3/5/10 years, you'll have to start over. Lose your rankings/revenue until you can get a new site up.
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The thing I'd have a problem with sites such as Wix is how long will they be around. It's easy to invest thousands of dollars into a website (content,SEO,etc) if you can't do it yourself. If Wix isn't around in 3/5/10 years, you'll have to start over. Lose your rankings/revenue until you can get a new site up.
I don't see how that has anything to do with being a legit contractor.

You also won't have to start over. Understanding how SEO works keeps you from having to start from ground zero.

Site maps and URLs
Maintaining Interlinks, Keywords, H1, Image data...

There is a ton that you can do that will prevent you from having to start at zero. Companies upgrade their sites all of the time and don't lose all of their SEO.
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No you won't have to start from zero if you have a backup of your site.
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No you won't have to start from zero if you have a backup of your site.
Even if you don't, you won't start at ground zero. All you need is a site map and the other things I listed.
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Many are naming what companies NOT to use... Does anyone have a name of amarketing comany or web builder too use???
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Stay away from FREE. You get what you pay for. Starting with WIX or Weebly is a bad move.

Titles and H1 tags will not save your site if you have to move. REDIRECTS are what saves sites and TNT is going to learn a painful lesson... WIX urls do not redirect. It is one page site.

https://www.wix.com/support/html5/ug...7-e1a5bd823f1a

Google, in your area, for a Web developer. Read their reviews and call their customers.

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Stay away from FREE. You get what you pay for. Starting with WIX or Weebly is a bad move.

Titles and H1 tags will not save your site if you have to move. REDIRECTS are what saves sites and TNT is going to learn a painful lesson... WIX urls do not redirect. It is one page site.

https://www.wix.com/support/html5/ug...7-e1a5bd823f1a

Google, in your area, for a Web developer. Read their reviews and call their customers.
Seriously painful how? I will lose rank for a few months? Only a fool relies on one form of lead generation. I could take my site down tomorrow and be just as successful. I just choose to be apart of the 21st century and take advantage of technology.
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I am at a loss at to see why you keep crowing about your website leads when they are this disposable.

This is a major issue with Wix... they kill your online presence when you move to better and greater things.

Do it! If you like your Wix SEO results, can you imagine the results you would of had starting out right with a properly structured, hierarchical build? The age of the pages, the proper display of snippets in Google, the extensibility would have been remarkable.
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Here are my Google Places results. I do still have some work to do, but am happy with the results. WIX makes it super easy, but I will admit that after getting my logo resigned I will be rebuilding my site and moving away from WIX.
Please clarify.... your Google Places ranking has nothing to do with your website.

These are two different animals.
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I am at a loss at to see why you keep crowing about your website leads when they are this disposable.

This is a major issue with Wix... they kill your online presence when you move to better and greater things.

Do it! If you like your Wix SEO results, can you imagine the results you would of had starting out right with a properly structured, hierarchical build? The age of the pages, the proper display of snippets in Google, the extensibility would have been remarkable.
You are being two separate subjects.

The one originated from the statement that if you want traffic you won't use WIX. I use WIX and I get traffic.

I could go the rest of my career using this site but I'm never satisfied and have to tinker. But I have built computers since 93, my first HTML site the same year and have always enjoyed playing with technology.

It's not disposable, just not necessary for success. I learned the hard way a few years into business that you can't rely or lean on one lead generator.

In remodeling WOM will always be king. Not so much in service trades. It's still the best but a plumber could live on service calls his while career generated from the phone book 20 years ago and now via a site.

I didn't need any better results. As it was said I was disgusted with the thought of running around begging for backlinks and writing new content. I got in this business to remodel homes not work on SEO. When I saw how easy the basics were I decided to try it. I did and it worked. I'm getting results. It's fun. I see potential but not reliance.
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I have a different model, because I am not really in the trades, per say.

I get leads through various Internet channels. WoM... not much. Repeat customers, sure.

For me, SEO is critical. My perspective is to dominate. I always start off right. This is our philosophical diff...

Correct me, but I think your approach for a contractor and his website is to get in with as little expenditure as possible, get his feet wet and experiment. Wix provides about as easy of a solution as you can find. Unfortunately, it will have to be cast aside, eventually when there is success.

My approach is, been-there-done-that. I want to start right, go hard, go fast and dominate. I require commitment to provide me content and video-in-the-raw. I never have a problem getting prepaid for linkbuilding, because they see results. I have their credit cards on hand to charge.

Yes, I have lost potential clients with my approach. FEW contractors appreciate the internet and don't want to understand that they are to provide content. Even my best contractor clients tire of me harping on them... because they are ultra busy.

So, I am approaching this with an entirely different perspective. Who is right? Of course, I am . But I understand your perspective!

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The other problem here is you have such a vast variety of company sizes in all parts of the country and world posting here...

What a small custom builder does and what a large scale builder does NEEDS to be completely different. So their website and how they TARGET potential customers needs to be different.

I wanted a website at very low cost so that people can go "O, you have a website, I'm gonna go check that out." And help build my web presence. Weebly has served the purpose for me... it won't serve its purpose on a large scale builder.
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I understand.... however, let me give you my experience to think about.

In Michigan, a decade ago, contractors were failing, due to the economy. We had a website, but it took a back seat because we were busy (2 of us insulating 250 homes a year).

When things slowed down, my dad called and said "no work today." So, instead of taking the dayoff, I wrote website content all day long.

We were not in a big metropolitan area.

This site saved our company as we now had jobs coming in when no one else did. Huge, long established companies went out of business, but we survived.

That website opened up other business avenues. I was able to reinvent myself, stay connected to the industry and make a good living.

So, my approach is, why not get the biggest reach possible? You never know what may come.

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I have a different model, because I am not really in the trades, per say.

I get leads through various Internet channels. WoM... not much. Repeat customers, sure.

For me, SEO is critical. My perspective is to dominate. I always start off right. This is our philosophical diff...

But that is subjective. If it is working for my needs, then it is right for me.

Correct me, but I think your approach for a contractor and his website is to get in with as little expenditure as possible, get his feet wet and experiment. Wix provides about as easy of a solution as you can find. Unfortunately, it will have to be cast aside, eventually when there is success.

Not true, only if the success outgrows the abilities and offerings of WIX. Like I said, I wouldn't be leaving but there is much I want to play with. I got another two calls after my last post from my site. That is nearly 10 leads in one day.

My approach is, been-there-done-that. I want to start right, go hard, go fast and dominate. I require commitment to provide me content and video-in-the-raw. I never have a problem getting prepaid for linkbuilding, because they see results. I have their credit cards on hand to charge.

Yes, I have lost potential clients with my approach. FEW contractors appreciate the internet and don't want to understand that they are to provide content. Even my best contractor clients tire of me harping on them... because they are ultra busy.

So, I am approaching this with an entirely different perspective. Who is right? Of course, I am . But I understand your perspective!
My perspective isn't just do it the cheapest, it's more don't throw good money after bad. I have always said that websites serve more than one purpose. For true WOM guys it is just a sales tool to show off your projects...what is called a web presence. I am legitimized by just having a site.

Then there are the toe dippers, like myself. It's time to see what is really out there and if I really want to spend time and money on generating online leads through my own site.

And lastly the die hard never rest go getters. These are the ones that are always checking analytics and love competition. Heck they thrive on it. That would be you, IMO. It's the challenge. The thrill of the hunt and kill. Matt and few others on here are like that. All about blogs and backlings and the latest trends in SEO. They get off on knowing all the ins and outs of the latest Google release and beating everyone to the punch.
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I understand.... however, let me give you my experience to think about.

In Michigan, a decade ago, contractors were failing, due to the economy. We had a website, but it took a back seat because we were busy (2 of us insulating 250 homes a year).

When things slowed down, my dad called and said "no work today." So, instead of taking the dayoff, I wrote website content all day long.

We were not in a big metropolitan area.

This site saved our company as we now had jobs coming in when no one else did. Huge, long established companies went out of business, but we survived.

That website opened up other business avenues. I was able to reinvent myself, stay connected to the industry and make a good living.

So, my approach is, why not get the biggest reach possible? You never know what may come.
But that wasn't the only answer to your problem. There were other answers, it's just that was the one that you chose and it worked for you.

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