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Old 05-16-2012, 07:02 AM   #1
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New SEO Company , 5 Months In And Averaging 6-8 Visitors A Day


NYC / Westchester Market

Spending $300 Per Month

Was with Footbridge Prior for a year.

I get calls every now and then, averaging 4-5 a Month.

What are your thoughts?

I think my SEO budget isnt enough for my market and that money can be spent on gambling Adwords or Other traditional print media.

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Old 05-16-2012, 07:21 AM   #2
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You dont have a blog, that is hindering you. Put up a blog on your site, seo it till it gets some PR, do a wordpress.com blog on your own and put up some blogs on it.

What does the company do for you for 300? Article marketing? Directory listings?

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Be thankful Footbridge hasn't dropped you from all of their directories yet, because that's what is holding your site up right now. Your $300 a month SEO company appears to be doing virtually nothing. Ask them what they've done. I'll give you a link report that will show all your footbridge links and a few from other sources that they likely got, hardly any.

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Is spammy.... And you've done it on every service page. I would cut this list down to 10 and make an individual page for them, showcase all of your services on these pages with a bulleted list. Give the Search engines something to actually index.

Your Videos... Are not optimized at all... You should have 1 or 2 paragraph descriptions with each video. You should also include your full physical business address (Citation) and also LINK OUT to the page your video is about, not your homepage.

Put a video or two in your sidebar! or on the particular page they belong to spice up your content a little.

I would remove the buttons in your sidebar...

1. Request an in home consultation - Why would you make them click this? Just have the form right there... High on the right, never moves, always there.

2. Check Out The Latest Home Improvement Tips - Again... You are losing the benefit of having the LINKS for your articles appear on the homepage. You should have a feed, that displays a few articles right there. Not a button.

Your calls-to-action are weaker than they should be... Bolder, Brighter...

There is much more, but I don't have the time at this moment... For $300 a month these are small things that they should have picked up on that will help you.

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Old 05-16-2012, 10:20 AM   #4
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$300 bucks won't get you too far on PPC...maybe 50 clicks.
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Carl,

Can you PM / email me? Your inbox is full.
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You should have been in the Avengers movie as Mr. Invisible.

Ask them what is their approach is for getting you calls or proper search placement.

You have jumped into a dynamic system where if one part isn't executed properly nothing works or is barely measurable.

As the single most important step in gaining calls/placement is knowing where you need to be positioned on search engines. One problem that jumps out is not having some real keywords that will convert. You need keywords that don't come from somebody in the business. The majority of customers have not acquired the terminology of a remodeling contractor.

A simple tool in determining value might be to get in touch with service magic and find out the value of their remodeling leads as they will tell you specifically, from there you can judge from what you’re paying this seo company and do a little math.
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:37 AM   #7
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copyscape your site.

the same text is use where u put links, that a no no you hurting your site, by not being unique content anymore.
google had 3 major update in the last 60 days, for thin content , spun and affiliated wich drop thems .

also work on your meta tags. They are all the same except for the name of the city := not good. google will drop you from appearing naturally for this,
check them out here. http://www.google.com/search?q=site:...&start=40&sa=N
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Seriously... $300 per month should be getting you tons of visitors. Are you on the first page for the important keywords to you? Our company even has a First Page Promise and it's worked great for us... I can give you their information if you'd like.
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Seriously... $300 per month should be getting you tons of visitors.
Not so fast. His company is in the NYC area which is an important consideration. We can't deal with just the price here and provide a fair assessment, understanding the competitive situation brings more meaning to the numbers.
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I pay around $300 a month. I had to pay $0 to get started and my guy built a website at no extra cost and it wasn't a cheap looking site either.
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I pay around $300 a month. I had to pay $0 to get started and my guy built a website at no extra cost and it wasn't a cheap looking site either.
Your site looks pretty decent, the footer is keyword stuffed, I wouldnt do that. You are also not receiving any off site seo that is detectable anyways. Your site may be pretty new though.
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Your site looks pretty decent, the footer is keyword stuffed, I wouldnt do that. You are also not receiving any off site seo that is detectable anyways. Your site may be pretty new though.
Yeah, we just launched it this week. I havent had to pay a dime . The website was included. The guy seems know what he is doing. I ll update you with results.
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I pay around $300 a month. I had to pay $0 to get started and my guy built a website at no extra cost and it wasn't a cheap looking site either.
I did the same thing. I think this is a huge benefit. So many companies charge a lot without results. I found a guy that charges nothing upfront and then provides call tracking for how many phone calls we get a month.
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Sounds good. Do you own the domain name, and have control of it. Do you own the business number that is being tracked? If you cancel do you keep the seo that has been done so far, or is it on his network. Things to keep in mind.
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Seriously... $300 per month should be getting you tons of visitors. Are you on the first page for the important keywords to you? Our company even has a First Page Promise and it's worked great for us... I can give you their information if you'd like.
$300/month for SEO is really low, low enough that I'd be skeptical of the person doing the work if they are devoting more than a handful of hours to your campaign. A first page promise is a great filter; if a firm offers it, you don't have to waste any more time with them, because they aren't legit. There are no guarantees in the world of SEO except that it's a constant battle. Google changes its algorithms constantly, there's a ton of variance in the results of queries based on proximity creating instability in rankings, rankings can be personalized from machine to machine creating further instability, etc. Also, a firm who makes these kinds of guarantees is much more likely to use black hat methods when they have to deliver on that guarantee, and that's definitely not something you want.
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$300/month for SEO is really low, low enough that I'd be skeptical of the person doing the work if they are devoting more than a handful of hours to your campaign. A first page promise is a great filter; if a firm offers it, you don't have to waste any more time with them, because they aren't legit. There are no guarantees in the world of SEO except that it's a constant battle. Google changes its algorithms constantly, there's a ton of variance in the results of queries based on proximity creating instability in rankings, rankings can be personalized from machine to machine creating further instability, etc. Also, a firm who makes these kinds of guarantees is much more likely to use black hat methods when they have to deliver on that guarantee, and that's definitely not something you want.
The fact is there is always a new bag of tricks and they sometimes work amazingly well... for a short time before they bite.

A major problem with these guarantees is the people providing them do not work for Google. They are guaranteeing you something they have no control over. This is why legitimate SEO people do not make guarantees. That would be like an electrician guaranteeing no power outages.

With that said, some things in SEO never change. If you build around the solid principles Google will never want to penalize you for, then algorithm changes that send many people into a panic won't alarm you. That's a tougher sell though because it involves hard work and time.
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I did the same thing. I think this is a huge benefit. So many companies charge a lot without results. I found a guy that charges nothing upfront and then provides call tracking for how many phone calls we get a month.
Nothing upfront? That's a hell of a risk if you ask me.
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You have to follow the work of these companies. Some will do a lot for $300. Some will do very little. If you're not getting results, there's a problem. Link building is generally cumulative, so things need to get better not worse. But competition can be a b*tch. What are the other guys doing on thier end? They may be spending $600.

If you've got a lot of competition, find a niche keyword that you can dominate. Make sure your SEO company is in line. If they don't sound interested, abandon ship. SEO is an art, not a formula. A lot of times the discount SEO companies will put you on their "System". Problem is, one size does not fit all.

When I first started with SEO, I hired a company for three hundred a month that was billing me for 15 hours a month. When I decided that the results were not what I expected, I did some digging and found out that I was being charged an hour of time for 1 backlink. Turns out one link takes about 3 minutes to create. Not to mention, the backlinks were some very low quality sites. I immediately cancelled the service. Be wary of these companies, make sure to read reviews and ask for referrals. Just like people research you when they're looking for contractors.
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not to hi-jack his thread but I also had footbridge and switched to a company that is charging me 600.00 a month plus a 500 fee to juice up the site as they put it. I haven't seen any changes just about 5-6 hits per day www.catalfanobrothers.com
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not to hi-jack his thread but I also had footbridge and switched to a company that is charging me 600.00 a month plus a 500 fee to juice up the site as they put it. I haven't seen any changes just about 5-6 hits per day www.catalfanobrothers.com
I think you've got a nice site. It looks nice, and customers will want to call. I would suggest writing more content on the first page. You only have 2 paragraphs.

You could also thumbtack a section of your blog on the first page and try to write a weekly post. That will update the page with new content regularly (higher rankings).

It can also be a good idea to download a free application like rankchecker to see how you're actually doing. You may need to install Firefox browser to do this.

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