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Hello TNT,

Not sure you are aware, but there are two classes available, not just the one you referenced.

I got another lead from my website SEO work (now up to two) so we decided to also take the Advanced Class.

Im really still slowly doing things from the first introductory class, but I watched the marketing planning webinar the class presenter put on last week and just got excited to get more thoughts in mind as we prepare for next year.

You see the webinar since it was pretty informational?

You know about the Advanced Class?

Kinda enjoying this stuff and its opening our eyes.

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Yes, I will be taking the class early next year and rebuild my site.

Great to see others are taking advantage of these great courses. They can be used to DIY or give one the confidence and knowledge to know what to demand from a service provider.
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Hey TNT before I plunk down the cash this is the link to the course you are talking about right?

http://myonlinetoolbox-website-seo-e...ing-the-basics

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I'm going to give it a whirl if it helps me get a job or two it will pay for itself.
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Morning SectorSecurty.

Not sure if you bought yet but they had a presentation other day and gave away a popular book you will be interested in (and I have it and its good for contractors). http://www.myonlinetoolbox.com/HomeC...lan-Leads.aspx . The offer is still there as I typed this note.

It was for webinar attendees so I assume the offer may go away soon. Not sure. Glad I can now help someone too. Bye.

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OH, webinar is good, just about 15 minutes so you may want to listen too.
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Hello everyone,

I first want to thank TNT and a few others too for helping me be aware of this education. Best time during thanksgiving to pass along good wishes for things you are thankful for, and this is definitely one of them. We have now taken both the Basic and Advanced Classes and am well on our way to starting next year completely different than we ever have when it comes to website marketing. Now have the motivation and understanding how easy website marketing can be. These packaged classes do the trick. It is hard to explain other than to say We had no idea where to begin, and now implement so many different topics in such a short time..

I am happy to report that we had 5 leads last week and 3 of them came directly from the website. So now we have gotten a handful in just a few weeks after just a little education and time well spent.

I am now comfortable to ask some questions but will open a separate forum topic out of respect for this thread topic.

But before I ask my questions elsewhere, we did want to follow a virtue we believe in and just say Thanks again.

Amanda and Dennis
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I first want to thank TNT and a few others too for helping me be aware of this education. Best time during thanksgiving to pass along good wishes for things you are thankful for, and this is definitely one of them. We have now taken both the Basic and Advanced Classes and am well on our way to starting next year completely different than we ever have when it comes to website marketing. Now have the motivation and understanding how easy website marketing can be. These packaged classes do the trick. It is hard to explain other than to say We had no idea where to begin, and now implement so many different topics in such a short time..

I am happy to report that we had 5 leads last week and 3 of them came directly from the website. So now we have gotten a handful in just a few weeks after just a little education and time well spent.

I am now comfortable to ask some questions but will open a separate forum topic out of respect for this thread topic.

But before I ask my questions elsewhere, we did want to follow a virtue we believe in and just say Thanks again.

Amanda and Dennis
Thats great, be sure to post your experience! It is great to watch keywords move around depending on the external applications.
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I took this class before TNT made this post and I learned a lot. Even gave a testimonial on their site to show I came before you TNT, but glad I noticed this here now since I am active again as the year is winding down. Whether TNT or me came first doesn’t matter – the education works helping me work with whomever I decide to be with.

I was using another website service provider and the education also help with my decision to change. I’m not mentioning my old and new web companies at the moment to avoid getting anyone reading this distracted since that happens to much here. Maybe I will open another thread or something soon to explain the differences.

I got busy and left my new site alone for just a little. I just started reviewing this again with my new web guy and know there is something about my pictures but I couldn’t find my class material I saved early. My new web guys knows this stuff but I want to be more educated before we start getting deeper into our conversations for next changes.

MOTB, what say you on first glance at this following specific page on my website? Keep in mind I already took the class so I’d appreciate something specific to consider rather than a generic reply.

http://vividpaintingllc.com/gallery/

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Hey Mike,

Long time and nice to see you back!

I will give you a few comments publicly, and get back to you on others since I am remote at the moment and need to check over your account.

From a SEO perspective, try to target three items, one being the most important and two being supporting. I am using the picture House Painting Before and After as the reference point.
1) the file name of this image is thumbs_after.jpg. I would sooner have the file name be house-painting-after.jpg
2) The bigger issue is an absent Alt-Text (or Associated Text). Consider this similar to the Title Tag of a web page. While I can go into details that may open debate, it better to first ensure it is not missing at all, and the description should try to tell the viewer exactly what they are looking at.
3) For this last one, I'll pass you a note based on the class topics. You bought so you deserve something extra that not everyone should get

From a Strategy perspective, I like that you are using the image to link to a Service Specific Page. But what I don't like on the landing page http://vividpaintingllc.com/house-painting/ is
1) all the pictures have the same issues as mentioned above, and
2) there is no content text on the page supporting the topic of House Painting.

You have some good stuff, and the pictures help you tell a good story, so go tell it ! And fixing the above is much easier now that you have the content in the first place.

Forgive me since I can't recall where you were at the beginning of the year when you first took the class, and I am sure there was a little transition time in between. I'm also sure that your current website person would agree with my general comments. It is so prevailing that I am assuming there is a reason why it is not being done, so remind me when I send the follow up stuff to you. It will be easier for me to position to support you and them going forward without getting distracted here while answering your question.

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I think the biggest challenge many don’t realize is how hard it is to begin to understand the topics of marketing with this website SEO.

So before I venture any further, I have read enough here on this forum and other forums and have been referenced by a few consultants too. I need to at least understand to make my future decisions about my website. You will see that my site needs a lot of work and it is http://www.meridian-design-construction.com . We do good work, but it seems we are not doing as well as we could on the marketing for leads.

I decided to take a step back and signed up to learn the topics so I can talk somewhat intelligently about the topic. This seems to work from many here as well as from other consulting groups. Hoping I can come back soon and tell you all what I have learned, and I will be the first to offer any constructive criticism too since I definitely am at the starting point when it comes to this. Not sure how many started from the ground up, but I am close when it comes to the websites generating leads so it will be fun watching it convert.

Will be back soon after I take the classes. Thanks all for the encouragement.

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I think the biggest challenge many don’t realize is how hard it is to begin to understand the topics of marketing with this website SEO.

So before I venture any further, I have read enough here on this forum and other forums and have been referenced by a few consultants too. I need to at least understand to make my future decisions about my website. You will see that my site needs a lot of work and it is http://www.meridian-design-construction.com . We do good work, but it seems we are not doing as well as we could on the marketing for leads.

I decided to take a step back and signed up to learn the topics so I can talk somewhat intelligently about the topic. This seems to work from many here as well as from other consulting groups. Hoping I can come back soon and tell you all what I have learned, and I will be the first to offer any constructive criticism too since I definitely am at the starting point when it comes to this. Not sure how many started from the ground up, but I am close when it comes to the websites generating leads so it will be fun watching it convert.

Will be back soon after I take the classes. Thanks all for the encouragement.

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Justin, since I don't hang out int he intros section and this is your first post, let me say welcome to CT. I'm sure some time spent here and taking the classes will help you a lot. I was surprised when viewing your site though, but in a good way. Aesthetically, your site is in far better shape than most I see. On first glance, the only recommendation I have is to darken the body text for better readability. Beyond that, I'll reserve further comments until you return or post again. Congrats on taking a step further into understanding the marketing and SEO side. That's an important part of seeing the rewards that will follow.
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I think the biggest challenge many dont realize is how hard it is to begin to understand the topics of marketing with this website SEO.

So before I venture any further, I have read enough here on this forum and other forums and have been referenced by a few consultants too. I need to at least understand to make my future decisions about my website. You will see that my site needs a lot of work and it is http://www.meridian-design-construction.com . We do good work, but it seems we are not doing as well as we could on the marketing for leads.

I decided to take a step back and signed up to learn the topics so I can talk somewhat intelligently about the topic. This seems to work from many here as well as from other consulting groups. Hoping I can come back soon and tell you all what I have learned, and I will be the first to offer any constructive criticism too since I definitely am at the starting point when it comes to this. Not sure how many started from the ground up, but I am close when it comes to the websites generating leads so it will be fun watching it convert.

Will be back soon after I take the classes. Thanks all for the encouragement.

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I think its a great program and one everone should take who wants to get leads online. But there is a learning curve like you said and it will cost you money in the form on lost leads while you learn it versus have a professional site built.

One could study seo for 5 years and still lack the skills to build a site that is on the same level as a pro. In this case there will still be lost money from sales (conversions).

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Justin, since I don't hang out int he intros section and this is your first post, let me say welcome to CT. I'm sure some time spent here and taking the classes will help you a lot. I was surprised when viewing your site though, but in a good way. Aesthetically, your site is in far better shape than most I see. On first glance, the only recommendation I have is to darken the body text for better readability. Beyond that, I'll reserve further comments until you return or post again. Congrats on taking a step further into understanding the marketing and SEO side. That's an important part of seeing the rewards that will follow.
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I think its a great program and one everone should take who wants to get leads online. But there is a learning curve like you said and it will cost you money in the form on lost leads while you learn it versus have a professional site built.

One could study seo for 5 years and still lack the skills to build a site that is on the same level as a pro. In this case there will still be lost money from sales (conversions).
I agree to a point. If you implement the things you learn in the program you can see immediate results. Any increase isn't a loss, in my book. I see this with my own site. As most know I currently have a WIX site, which many said was terrible for SEO. While I agree it's not the greatest, but after I implemented the things I learned in the basic class I started getting good page results and leads.

When that happened I was told that it was because I had no competition. Even if that's the truth, I got results and in about a month after making the changes. The basics you learn are easy to implement.

And you can't lose what you didn't have, at least that's how I see it. You also can't lose what you aren't ready for or don't need. I go back to me as an example. I get some leads from my site, but most of my online leads come from YELP and the vast majority of my leads are WOM.

With all of that said, this winter will be a winter of new beginnings. I purchased my new domain tntrenovate.com and will launch my new site sometime in Feb/March. I will concentrate on streamlined SEO that is targeted to a specific market and use my site to generate profitable well qualified leads. I will also take some time and money and invest in my other online sources such as YELP and Google Places. I am going to leverage their SEO dollars to my advantage. I'll keep everyone posted.
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I think its a great program and one everone should take who wants to get leads online. But there is a learning curve like you said and it will cost you money in the form on lost leads while you learn it versus have a professional site built. One could study seo for 5 years and still lack the skills to build a site that is on the same level as a pro. In this case there will still be lost money from sales (conversions).
Thanks for the opening compliment, but let me just add an extra comment about how the classes work for contractors, without or WITH a pro.

From the WITHOUT A Pro Perspective: Yes, many of the people who take the classes are Do It Yourself folk for many many different reasons. Some guys (and gals, need to be politically correct ) are just on a shoe string budget and they are getting started and simply don't want to get into the whole Lead Gen mess.

Others have a circumstance where a wife or office worker happens to be technically savvy and just needs to understand the basics to preoccupy their down time by helping the company generate more opportunities - and they can do so.

Others are personally capable and they just choose to have their own personal down time be working their website.

From the WITH a Pro Perspective: Many Pros are Pros. Many self proclaimed Pros are not Pros. And an informed contractor can then easily spot who is a Pro and who is not a Pro. And an informed contractor than can make their relationship with the Pro be so much more helpful. Most website Pros are not marketing pros. Yes, they may know websites and SEO tech terms, but websites and SEO are a subset of marketing. So a contractor can understand what exactly makes a website tick, and then everyone wins, including the Pro being able to do a better job since the contractor will be able to support their efforts since they understand what material is needed and how it helps them.

In other words, the classes work for a contractor regardless whether they choose to do it by themselves or support the efforts of a Pro. But there are no lost leads, just an expansion of opportunities with some focused education.

Thanks for the comment. I know you are not saying it in a negative way but it allowed me to explain a difference that may not be seen. Have a good week.
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Thanks for the opening compliment, but let me just add an extra comment about how the classes work for contractors, without or WITH a pro.

From the WITHOUT A Pro Perspective: Yes, many of the people who take the classes are Do It Yourself folk for many many different reasons. Some guys (and gals, need to be politically correct ) are just on a shoe string budget and they are getting started and simply don't want to get into the whole Lead Gen mess.

Others have a circumstance where a wife or office worker happens to be technically savvy and just needs to understand the basics to preoccupy their down time by helping the company generate more opportunities - and they can do so.

Others are personally capable and they just choose to have their own personal down time be working their website.

From the WITH a Pro Perspective: Many Pros are Pros. Many self proclaimed Pros are not Pros. And an informed contractor can then easily spot who is a Pro and who is not a Pro. And an informed contractor than can make their relationship with the Pro be so much more helpful. Most website Pros are not marketing pros. Yes, they may know websites and SEO tech terms, but websites and SEO are a subset of marketing. So a contractor can understand what exactly makes a website tick, and then everyone wins, including the Pro being able to do a better job since the contractor will be able to support their efforts since they understand what material is needed and how it helps them.

In other words, the classes work for a contractor regardless whether they choose to do it by themselves or support the efforts of a Pro. But there are no lost leads, just an expansion of opportunities with some focused education.

Thanks for the comment. I know you are not saying it in a negative way but it allowed me to explain a difference that may not be seen. Have a good week.
Absolutely think you offer a great service and for exactly the points you bring up. I think there is this underlying idea that people can go from zero to hero with a few hours spent online.

I may be above average for a contractor, maybe not, but ive spent thousands of hours hanging out in different places and even building dozens of sites for one reason or another, many have expired at this point as google has devalued broad sections of linking opportunities.

Even after this amount of time, I couldnt build a site that would hold a candle to one Carl, Steve or Footbridge could build. Just no way. I can still move keywords sure, but I would loose tens of thousands of dollars per year from low conversions minimum.

but , no one can pull any seo crap with me, just like many of the people who take your class will experience.

Learning seo in your class could/will save people tens of thousands of dollars in bad experiences from hack web guys, and ultimately hundreds of thousands of dollars from that "opportunity costs" if they go that route, but going it alone will cost more to get to where they need to be, then the price of a professionals website.

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