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Old 02-22-2015, 11:55 AM   #161
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My point is you guys are coming out of the woodwork these days.All sounding like a bunch of used car salemen.Lots of talk about qualifying leads.
What can we do to qualify you?
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Old 02-22-2015, 12:03 PM   #162
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There's unfortunately no free lunch here.
Wouldn't that work both ways. Why should a contractor give out free lunches for a bunch of leads he has no idea are gonna turn into $.

I have no experience with lead generation company's as 95% of them get awful reviews and i'm not willing to put money into something that's such an awful experience for 95% of contractors.

I prob wouldn't sign up as i'm already booked well into the summer but i bet a lot of guys on here would have no problem signing up to a company that back what they say with a trial. Wouldn't it be a better idea to get contractors signed up and keep them signed up instead of doing what every other lead gen service does and go on about how great their leads are.

If you had a bunch of great reviews on a forum like this from contractors think how far that could take your business.
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There's unfortunately no free lunch here. I advise my clients to base their assessments on at least 10 - 20 leads. Any less, and they're making decisions on a sample size that just too small.

Perhaps your best approach is to try one lead source at a time. That way, you minimize your cash outflow and risk.

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Why not? You guys expect us to take all of the risk? Yea that sounds fair.
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I can't speak for other lead sources. My company charges on a performance basis - that means we get paid when we generate sales leads to a very specific quality standard. It also means we don't get paid when we don't. It's a shared-risk model that our clients love.
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I can't speak for other lead sources. My company charges on a performance basis - that means we get paid when we generate sales leads to a very specific quality standard. It also means we don't get paid when we don't. It's a shared-risk model that our clients love.
So there are no up front fees with you?
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So there are no up front fees with you?

That wouldn't be so bad. So you only pay a fee if you get the job from the lead? That would make sense then that would make the qualify all leads.
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Maybe your system is different, but I'm with with BCConstruction.

The answer to his question is to get your money.

Here's a sample of a call I received once that I vaguely remember, though I have had probably a few hundred just like it.

Telemarketer: Sign up for our super internet lead service and get a bajillion leads a month!

Me: How much is it?

Telemarketer: $150 per month with a twelve month contract.

I just happened to be at the office at the time and have a few internet links at the ready. I said hold on a minute and in seconds I asked him how he's going to get me any leads when his website has 5,000 visitors a month. Assuming half of those are from people he called, that's less than one per county in the U.S. Based on population, that might be one or two visitors within my service area every month. Assuming, according to my proprietary formula, that I close 1 of every 10,000 of those, it would take me about a thousand years to get a sale. That's an ROI of about .0000005%. I tell him that I like my ROI to be a couple hundred million percent better than that.

I've run and paid for dozens of advertisements across numerous platforms that yielded 0 customers. I've been on lead generation sites that yielded 0 calls. I'm not paying for it unless it works, and AFTER it works.

That's my experience with it. I'm not saying anything about your business in particular.
I understand BBCOnstruction and got your point. There are scams and poor quality lead services all over the net and if i was a contractor i would not pay upfront for leads if i'm not sure about the quality

BUT i disagree with your numbers, if the source of the leads is good there's no way you can't get a good ROI.

Is all about the lead source, in my experience organic LOCAL traffic have the better ROI. If you build a lead gen. site targeted to your area of service you will get high quality leads.

Anyway, an honest company will not charge for leads upfront. or at least they have to offer a money back guarantee. The honest approach is to charge AFTER the client got the phone calls and AFTER rewiewing the quallity of the leads.

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I've been with HA for a couple months now and have worked their system making contact with anyone in my area interested in Major renovations, kitchen remodels, larger projects. I've had to reduce the coverage area after getting leads from poor neighborhoods and looky lou's. I've yet to get a solid lead from anyone serious about having a GC perform work on their home.

I've recently turned off the leads because I'm to busy with referral work. All of a sudden, I'm getting calls back from leads I called and left messages with. BUT, it's like their reading from a script or something. I've played along with three calls in the past two days answering the same questions from previous lead call backs. Just seems very fishy to me.

Their home's not cozy, they don't cook anymore because they don't like their kitchen, have tried to contact several contractors and no one will come take a look at their project. SAME story.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this when turning your leads off?

I would really love to get a solid lead from HA that turns into a job. This is worse then buying a used car.

Frustrated and questioning my decision.
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Dumped about $1200 dollars on them last year to check them out.Pretty much the same kind of thing or worse.Out of around 17 leads never got to even get into a HO house.Their rep called me the other day trying to sell me again .I gave him all the info for my account and he said" he was sorry but could not find it"?
Works for some as you'll find out here .Others it sucks.I think you do better if in a larger city.Just what I've seen from past posts.All they have done for me is cost me money.
They had a rep that used to stop in here occasionally.When the going got tough they were gone.
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Plenty of large city in Seattle. I think I've learned, it sounded so good though!
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:19 PM   #171
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Just to be fair to HA.I had one of there leads I contacted tell me"I didn't know anyone would call or want to come to my house".Another man said"I've never heard of them.My kids must have filled out the form while I was at work"Another were on vacation at their Florida home and would call me when they got back which never happened.Another did make an appointment for me to come look at there reno.Called the day of the appointment and said her and her husband came down with the flue.They would call when they felt better which never happened.
I forgot all of the contacts you could not contact and the phony numbers.
JMHO and what I received from them.There are others on this board that seem to do well with them.
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I searched HA and come by this thread. It reminds me when I had Servic* Maj*c a few years ago. Final straw was a lead and when I called someone answered the phone and said that no one lived there (at the address supplied by SM) by that name.

I looked it up on the Property Appraisers website and sure enough someone else owned it. I found out that persons number and called them and they said they had no idea who SM was or who the other person was.

SM denied the refund, said they called the number and verified it. So did I, and I called the real number for the person who lived there. Such a scam.
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Same outfit.Home advisor used to be service magic.Changed the name to protect the innocent.
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I understand BBCOnstruction and got your point. There are scams and poor quality lead services all over the net and if i was a contractor i would not pay upfront for leads if i'm not sure about the quality

BUT i disagree with your numbers, if the source of the leads is good there's no way you can't get a good ROI.

Is all about the lead source, in my experience organic LOCAL traffic have the better ROI. If you build a lead gen. site targeted to your area of service you will get high quality leads.

Anyway, an honest company will not charge for leads upfront. or at least they have to offer a money back guarantee. The honest approach is to charge AFTER the client got the phone calls and AFTER rewiewing the quallity of the leads.
How would they police that?
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I've been with HA for a couple months now and have worked their system making contact with anyone in my area interested in Major renovations, kitchen remodels, larger projects. I've had to reduce the coverage area after getting leads from poor neighborhoods and looky lou's. I've yet to get a solid lead from anyone serious about having a GC perform work on their home.

I've recently turned off the leads because I'm to busy with referral work. All of a sudden, I'm getting calls back from leads I called and left messages with. BUT, it's like their reading from a script or something. I've played along with three calls in the past two days answering the same questions from previous lead call backs. Just seems very fishy to me.

Their home's not cozy, they don't cook anymore because they don't like their kitchen, have tried to contact several contractors and no one will come take a look at their project. SAME story.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this when turning your leads off?

I would really love to get a solid lead from HA that turns into a job. This is worse then buying a used car.

Frustrated and questioning my decision.
I never had luck with large remodel leads.
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One of the reasons the leads suck is the way they do ppc. Type how to fix cracked siding and you will see homeadvisor. So someone clicks it and fills out something and you have a lead for siding replacement lol.

Multiple that times a billion for low CPC terms.

They do the same thing on any site that will let them.

People might type in a how to or worse phrase with no intent on hiring anyone but it gets sold to contractors as a real lead.
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I've posted about these guy's before. I dealt with the bogus leads because I got a couple jobs. The final straw was them totally ignoring the budget I had established. In December they sent me leads totaling almost $500, when I had a set budget of $300. I stopped payment to keep them from stealing my money. For the next 2 months they sent me approximately another $600 in leads. Just continuing to add to my total owed. My business credit is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to me, but they can kiss both sides of my Ass, if they think they're going to extort money from me. They have since sent my account to collections. The person I talked to at the collection company said that he had several similar complaints about them, but I agreed to HA terms. Well...they agreed to stay within my budget in those terms. Basically...stay away from them.
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I've posted about these guy's before. I dealt with the bogus leads because I got a couple jobs. The final straw was them totally ignoring the budget I had established. In December they sent me leads totaling almost $500, when I had a set budget of $300. I stopped payment to keep them from stealing my money. For the next 2 months they sent me approximately another $600 in leads. Just continuing to add to my total owed. My business credit is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to me, but they can kiss both sides of my Ass, if they think they're going to extort money from me. They have since sent my account to collections. The person I talked to at the collection company said that he had several similar complaints about them, but I agreed to HA terms. Well...they agreed to stay within my budget in those terms. Basically...stay away from them.
Sorry, but we are missing part of the story. You set the limit and they won't charge you unless you override the limit. It's automatic, however clicking Accept will get you that charge. And even though some of their practices are questionable, they would refund you the charges above your limit if there was an issue of this nature.

I haven't used them for a while but there were a few limits to set, leads and exact match leads. If you set your leads to $300 and exact match to $300 you could get up to $600 in total leads.
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Gleen, if you recommend to stay away from HA, you should know that craft jack is owend by HA ... they were bought out a yer or two ago ...
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I got an email for Contractor Marketing Pro.Just for kicks and being bored I thought I would check them out since I'd never heard of them.
Exclusive Leads (or so it says)
Bath remodel $180
Cabinets $54
Kitchen remodel $218
And I thought HA was bad.
Mako, do you know how much it costs to generate an "honest" lead? These companies pay $4-18 per click on google search and $1-3 on google partenr sites.

Out of those clicks how many actually convert into lead? I don't know, maybe 1 out of 10 at most, but probably more like 5-7%

So at minimum it costs these companies $30-50 on the front end. Maybe less, but that is still a lot of money.

then there are operating costs, call centers, lead verification, etc.

So if you want a good exlusive lead, be prepared to pay more than HA's $60-70 for shared leads

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