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Old 08-18-2018, 06:57 PM   #21
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But when you can't just grab and go it takes so much longer. If we have to sort through planks by width or something silly...
What Im trying to say is, that Bruce is a well known product. And this is what is done on production in my builds.

Even the notorious Chin Brothers (Koreans - dont ask) "try-fit" as they go.

About 1/2 of a room is laid out, butted up to check for fit and match, then pulled into the row being laid. Very fast, and I suspect faster than what you are achieving.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:02 PM   #22
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What Im trying to say is, that Bruce is a well known product. And this is what is done on production in my builds.

Even the notorious Chin Brothers (Koreans - dont ask) "try-fit" as they go.

About 1/2 of a room is laid out, butted up to check for fit and match, then pulled into the row being laid. Very fast, and I suspect faster than what you are achieving.
I'm sure it's faster. We aren't "flooring guys". We're used to putting stuff in that's consistently sized and moving on to the next job.

It seems like any sort of fitting ahead of time to discern a 1/16" difference would be rather hard and time consuming...
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I used Bruce pre-finished on spec homes. That much or more of culls and shorts and knots and whatevers were thrown away on each home.

Its just a given.

I've never had that problem, even with the cheapest line of bruce. ( I hate Bruce flooring btw)
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I've never had that problem, even with the cheapest line of bruce. ( I hate Bruce flooring btw)
I'm somewhat picky. Its cheap ass to start with. I can afford to eat a box. All the shorts 2 ft and under get culled except for where they can run to wall. Same with knots or burly ends.

In the mid-2000s, Bruce was shipping product that wouldn't pass for fire starter. Now their quality is back up, but now I'm using all hand finished plank.

The water born finish has made it damned near competitive with pre-finished, because of turn around time.
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Picky & bruce are not usually used in the same sentence.


Only time I even consider laying it, is when the client provides their own wood.
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We're sanding a lot of bruce floors that were laid 10-20 years ago. All have sun fading. Sanding aluminum oxide off sucks ass.
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16 Gauge nailer? Like the 16 gauge crown stapler for 3/8 engineered?

Try a 15 gauge stapler, heavy hammer, 95 psi and hit that f'er! It'll bend a board 1/4" if you mean it. You'll need wall jacks as well. Dont buy the powernail wall jack for $200. The amazon off brand is 20$ and it works just fine.

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There is also some technique to pulling a crowned board tight.

Start where the board is tight and work out from that. You want to pull the bow in incrementally from where its close rather than nailing at the point with the most gapping.

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Fill your cracks with color putty and wipe with a rage lightly dampened with spirits to remove the residue.

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We're sanding a lot of bruce floors that were laid 10-20 years ago. All have sun fading. Sanding aluminum oxide off sucks ass.
Have you tried the Bona Platinum? I use platinum belts and bona green ceramic edger discs. You get about 200 square feet per belt. Not great, but much faster and better than 10 feet on a normal blue belt. The green ceramic edger might get you 20 linear wall feet which is pretty good for a 1.25 disc.

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Have you tried the Bona Platinum? I use platinum belts and bona green ceramic edger discs. You get about 200 square feet per belt. Not great, but much faster and better than 10 feet on a normal blue belt. The green ceramic edger might get you 20 linear wall feet which is pretty good for a 1.25 disc.

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60 grit norton red heat on the drum & 40 grit purple 3m on the edges to get the finish off. It's working fine, but still suck sanding AO
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One thing about LL. At least all those 18" pieces are not heavy.
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We're sanding a lot of bruce floors that were laid 10-20 years ago. All have sun fading. Sanding aluminum oxide off sucks ass.
That was true even back in the mid 2000s. Remember well, I had a sales model - Bruce in kitchen and nook. Had area rug in nook under table. In just 2 years when it sold and we pulled the furniture the was a very clear outline of the rug.

I will say the finish itself held up well.

So yeah, 300 ft or so of Bruce replaced on that one - on my dime.

In the market I serve, it was in high demand.
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Reporting back with surprisingly good news...

LL replaced all the flooring free of charge, including enough to replace the floor we installed. They came out to the house and loaded in the new and took out the old.
They confirmed that it was a bad batch regarding the milling.

They are also paying $500 towards our labor costs on installing the bad floor.

Not at all how my friend or I saw this working out. Still a PITA but honestly for how it's all working out, it's not too bad.
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Reporting back with surprisingly good news...

LL replaced all the flooring free of charge, including enough to replace the floor we installed. They came out to the house and loaded in the new and took out the old.
They confirmed that it was a bad batch regarding the milling.

They are also paying $500 towards our labor costs on installing the bad floor.

Not at all how my friend or I saw this working out. Still a PITA but honestly for how it's all working out, it's not too bad.


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That's great news, glad it turned out well.
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Reporting back with surprisingly good news...

LL replaced all the flooring free of charge, including enough to replace the floor we installed. They came out to the house and loaded in the new and took out the old.
They confirmed that it was a bad batch regarding the milling.

They are also paying $500 towards our labor costs on installing the bad floor.

Not at all how my friend or I saw this working out. Still a PITA but honestly for how it's all working out, it's not too bad.
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Can I touch your robe?

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Let us know when they actually cut you a check
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Just run it, the cracks will be filled with dirt and dog/cat hair in no time

Good to see LL stepped up. Does $500 cover ripping up all the newly laid flooring as well?

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