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Old 11-08-2014, 08:47 AM   #1
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Orbital Versus Drum Hardwood Flooring Sander--Which Is Better?


According to the following website it states that an orbital sander is lighter and easier to use. If true why do flooring professionals still use the heavy drum sander to sand floors.

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Old 11-08-2014, 09:21 AM   #2
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because they are lighter and dont have the weight required to sand down some kinds of woods.

We just watched a guy try and sand down 1 1/2'' x 3/4'' unfinished hickory with one of those lighter machines...2 days later he got a drum. He obviously was not very seasoned in finishing floors.

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You're basically talking about a square buffer. They aren't worth a crap on anything harder than cypress. I prefer a belt sander, personally.
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I am in the process of refinishing some white oak floors right now.
I rented the U sand random orbit sander and ran it for about five minutes before I realized it was worthless. Went and rented a soft drum put on some 20 grit and went to town.
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That drives me crazy renting something, starting it, and it doesn't do what you need it to, or its way too slow.
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That drives me crazy renting something, starting it, and it doesn't do what you need it to, or its way too slow.
...and the people renting it are more often that not to shuck the company line.

Those orbital sanders SUCK! for removing finish from oak.

I wanted to beat the guy that talk me into "this new technology".

All things being equal; it was my decision so I can't get to hacked off.

(...even though I was content renting the drum sander, having used them before;
...and before the mape that rented it to me started in on his schtick.)
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Yeah, we wasted two days and 300 bucks on an orbital/vibrating sander. Useless POS.
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Re: Orbital Versus Drum Hardwood Flooring Sander--Which Is Better?


Also, and I'm sure the pros know this but some of us who just get roped into it for one reason or another might not, all drum sanders are definitely not the same.

The local construction rental shop has really nice ones, I think the brand is Silver and we used those for several rentals we were maintaining with no problem and then used a drum sander from another shop that was a different brand as it was closer to the project and it didn't work good at all, spun too fast which gummed the paper and had a tendency to bounce. It was so bad we took it back and got the Silver sander and............. voila, worked like a charm which was a relief as the thought had crossed our minds that the problem was with the finish and not the crummy sander.
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because they are lighter and dont have the weight required to sand down some kinds of woods.
Curious how the heck would you lift a 200lb drum sander three flights of stairs even with two guys unless your a body builder...
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If you're a grown man who can't carry a hundred pounds, you should get a desk job.
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Curious how the heck would you lift a 200lb drum sander three flights of stairs even with two guys unless your a body builder...
you saying you and one other guy cant carry 200lbs??? wow our understanding of heavy is VERY different!
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I don't care who you are, carrying objects up and down stairs is no easy task, the guy walking backward it's awkward, the guy walking up from the bottom has most of the weight.
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I don't care who you are, carrying objects up and down stairs is no easy task, the guy walking backward it's awkward, the guy walking up from the bottom has most of the weight.
Exactly...but i guess we have a lot macho men on this board...
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I don't care who you are, carrying objects up and down stairs is no easy task, the guy walking backward it's awkward, the guy walking up from the bottom has most of the weight.
Ever heard of a 2 wheeled dolly?

Orbitals have their place, but its not in the rough sanding portion of the job.

They good for helping to blend drum lines with edger swirls. They're good for cleaning up edger swirls in tight areas where you can't get a drum.

When I'm sanding a floor, I don't have days to pisss away waiting on an orbital to do what a drum will do in less than a day.
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Exactly...but i guess we have a lot macho men on this board...
or a lot of kitty men...
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How old are you "Mark"
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How old are you "Mark"
old enough to carry a sander up some stairs...and not puss out and be a beoch about it.
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How old are you "Mark"
I'm not Mark, but I' 50 years old & my helper is my 48 year old wife. From the sounds of it, she's tougher than some of the guys in the thread because she's on the other end of the sanders when we gotta take em up stairs. It's usually 2 sanders we're packing in too.

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