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Old 02-17-2019, 04:14 PM   #41
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And TNT services I normally dont respond to internet warriors like you and Ed. Just figured there would be more of comrodery among contractors. Well I thought this was a real contractors forum, but I see now anyone can join.

And everyone who gave real advice to me saw how appreciative I was. Just people like you who get called out for what u are get upset.
Lol I love it.
Rob TNT is a real contractor and a dickhead. He grows on you though and is really a good guy as long as you don't try and debate with him.

Shaggy, you seem like you really caught feelings here. Don't look for help then get all feely when you get it. Toughen up son...

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LMAOOOOOOO! Where did I get upset?
I just called a prick out for correcting me on grammar, and posting other shiz on other threads and 17k post! WOW!
Also. Did u not see the big LOL. OR THE JOKES! HAHA
Yall are getting upset. I'm smiling my ass off.
And u say real contractor loosely, I grew up with old school house building contractors who would slap you in the mouth if you corrected them on grammar. That's exactly what I would do in real life if someone was being a b**** and said some stuff like that to me in real life.
BUT I would not be mad while I did it lol. It would be a quick pop and he would straighten up or it wouldn't be open handed next time.
I dont get mad... again... your inferring stuff. I am a MAN, I deal with the problem and move on, no matter what it is. Maybe say a couple cuss words but that's it.

And my rule is don't say something on the internet that you would not say in real life.

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Old 02-17-2019, 04:21 PM   #42
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LMAOOOOOOO! Where did I get upset?
I just called a prick out for correcting me on grammar, and posting other shiz on other threads and 17k post! WOW!
Also. Did u not see the big LOL. OR THE JOKES! HAHA
Yall are getting upset. I'm smiling my ass off.
And u say real contractor loosely, I grew up with old school house building contractors who would slap you in the mouth if you corrected them on grammar. That's exactly what I would do in real life if someone was being a b**** and said some stuff like that to me in real life.
BUT I would not be mad while I did it lol. It would be a quick pop and he would straighten up or it wouldn't be open handed next time.
I dont get mad... again... your inferring stuff. I am a MAN, I deal with the problem and move on, no matter what it is. Maybe say a couple cuss words but that's it.

And my rule is don't say something on the internet that you would not say in real life.

NOW! You guys are welcome to keep debating it. SEE YA!!!
See, you mad...

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And u say real contractor loosely, I grew up with old school house building contractors who would slap you in the mouth if you corrected them on grammar. That's exactly what I would do in real life if someone was being a b**** and said some stuff like that to me in real life.
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OHHH SHIZ!!! YOUR ONE OF THEM LOL. HAHA just read some of your post bro.

Anyway, hey man u go ahead and do that. If this is your dream or u if you have already fulfilled your dream then get it bro! Correct grammar and such. We need those people so we can appreciate each other more. No hate here lol.
It's not my dream, and sure I have some dumb posts out there, but I guarantee you I have made more friends than enemies on here and have others contribute to my success and have I contributed to other's. So yeah, I am one of "them"....I know one thing for sure, snowflakes like you either toughen up or the leave. I have seen more whiners like you come and go on here.

I always love the grammar comment. Everyone has an issue from time to time whether it be their phone autocorrecting or a swipe keyboard missing a word. Sometimes we type as if it is the spoken language. Social media isn't an English class. If all you can come back with is correct my grammar, you need to dig a bit deeper.
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And TNT services I normally dont respond to internet warriors like you and Ed. Just figured there would be more of comrodery among contractors. Well I thought this was a real contractors forum, but I see now anyone can join.

And everyone who gave real advice to me saw how appreciative I was. Just people like you who get called out for what u are get upset.
Lol I love it.
Lol...so you normally don't but do? You are the one that came on wagging your finger all butt hurt. I always respond to your kind.

There is a comradery (correct your spelling smart guy), but it's earned not deserved. At the same time don't be so dang sensitive. You have brought your soap box out a few times. Imagine if this were a job site. You would get laughed off the site.

It's too bad your ego couldn't see all of the "REAL ADVICE" but instead got all butt hurt.
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But I also don't go around posting stuff to pretend I'm smart.
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First off sorry I got snappy.
If someone has advice im VERY appreciative, but to assume I dont have any experience and to just comment on that point alone without a solution is arrogant and ignorant which I have time for neither.
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LMAOOOOOOO! Where did I get upset?
I just called a prick out for correcting me on grammar, and posting other shiz on other threads and 17k post! WOW!
Also. Did u not see the big LOL. OR THE JOKES! HAHA
Yall are getting upset. I'm smiling my ass off.
And u say real contractor loosely, I grew up with old school house building contractors who would slap you in the mouth if you corrected them on grammar. That's exactly what I would do in real life if someone was being a b**** and said some stuff like that to me in real life.
BUT I would not be mad while I did it lol. It would be a quick pop and he would straighten up or it wouldn't be open handed next time.
I dont get mad... again... your inferring stuff. I am a MAN, I deal with the problem and move on, no matter what it is. Maybe say a couple cuss words but that's it.

And my rule is don't say something on the internet that you would not say in real life.

NOW! You guys are welcome to keep debating it. SEE YA!!!
Oh no, he would pop me... The punchline has been delivered and the joker has been named.
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Shaggyman...let's see if you are man enough to post your company info so we can see what a real contractor's work looks like. My info is in my signature line. Check me out brother! I am not scared of a dang thing. Let's see what excuses you come up with.
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Shaggyman...let's see if you are man enough to post your company info so we can see what a real contractor's work looks like. My info is in my signature line. Check me out brother! I am not scared of a dang thing. Let's see what excuses you come up with.
Rob, I'm a little offended you didn't thank me for calling you a dickhead... :-(

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OSB or plywood I wouldn't do it without a vapor barrier.
There's a test to see whether a moisture barrier is necessary or not. Tape a piece of plastic to the concrete, sealing all 4 edges. Let it set there for a couple days. If it's wet under the plastic when ya peel it back, a moisture barrier, or elastomeric coating is necessary to keep moisture from wicking into the subfloor/hardwood floor. If it's dry, not necessary is the general rule of thumb.

That said, I normally play it safe when gluing wood to concrete & use a glue that's also a moisture barrier. On my own home project, it was a wet lay bona glue with moisture barrier. 2 years later, floor is dead flat still.
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There's a test to see whether a moisture barrier is necessary or not. Tape a piece of plastic to the concrete, sealing all 4 edges. Let it set there for a couple days. If it's wet under the plastic when ya peel it back, a moisture barrier, or elastomeric coating is necessary to keep moisture from wicking into the subfloor/hardwood floor. If it's dry, not necessary is the general rule of thumb.

That said, I normally play it safe when gluing wood to concrete & use a glue that's also a moisture barrier. On my own home project, it was a wet lay bona glue with moisture barrier. 2 years later, floor is dead flat still.
it is ASTM D4263 concrete moisture test, and pretty much out dated now days.

calls for an 18" square of polyethylene film taped down on the 4 edges then checked for moisture after 16 hours.

accepted test for years.

most manufacturers today require in situ concrete moisture test to indicate the relative humidity of the slab.

common for the mix design to incorporate additives to help with moisture. also very common for plans/specs to just call out a coating prior to finish floor install.
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With the concrete moisture tests what would be the difference if you're in a Mediterranean climate where it doesn't rain for 8 months out of the year and then dumps for 4?
Do the test in late September and it'll be dry as a bone even if there is no vapor barrier, do it in February or March during a winter like we're having and, well you can guess what the results would be.
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With the concrete moisture tests what would be the difference if you're in a Mediterranean climate where it doesn't rain for 8 months out of the year and then dumps for 4?
Do the test in late September and it'll be dry as a bone even if there is no vapor barrier, do it in February or March during a winter like we're having and, well you can guess what the results would be.
after a slab has cured, providing there is proper moisture barrier, atmospheric conditions are not relevant to rh in a slab.
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after a slab has cured, providing there is proper moisture barrier, atmospheric conditions are not relevant to rh in a slab.
Not talking about the atmospheric conditions, talking about how wet the ground is the slab is sitting on top of, no vapor barrier and the ground is wet, the slab will absorb the water, if it's dry the slab will be dry.
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I'm not comfortable with gluing hardwood, so I put down a layer of plywood and did a nail on. It's my own home so it was okay to practice on it. Worked like a charm actually. What was really cool is the first floor I put down need replacing after about 12 years. Pulled it up the plywood was pristine and made laying the next floor a breeze.


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It is difficult to install 3/4" solid plank flooring by gluing it over concrete. I've done it with Sucupira, it was very well milled. I recommend an engineered unfinished product.

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