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Old 02-14-2015, 12:35 AM   #1
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Regrout job in commercial kitchen. Will do job during off hours (10p-8a), but next morning it will receive plenty of heavy traffic. I can put down melamine to minimize abuse, but if you've worked in a kitchen you know how it goes with spilled water, keg deliveries, etc. One portion is in walk-in frig so it will be cold and humid shortly/during after install.
Question is: what grout would you go with? Anything that will work?
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Old 02-14-2015, 06:55 AM   #2
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Laticrete Spectralock 2000 IG. This is the kind of application it's made for.

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Company I use to work for did all Publix supermarkets, deli/meat/bakery depts. Along with the storage and distribution centers. They bought epoxy direct from manufacturer. Different hardners would give you varying working times, so you mix smaller areas before setup time in a 4-1 ratio. Depending on temperature faster set when hot,vice versa. Didn't want to bond to wet areas and grease of course.
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SpectraLock IG might be the best grout choice, but you aren't going to meet SpectraLock's time-to-service requirements (http://www.laticrete.com/Portals/0/d...ts/LDS0300.pdf). I don't think you'll meet anyone else's requirements, either.
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SpectraLock IG might be the best grout choice, but you aren't going to meet SpectraLock's time-to-service requirements (http://www.laticrete.com/Portals/0/d...ts/LDS0300.pdf). I don't think you'll meet anyone else's requirements, either.
I can't think of any. He needs to cover it for a week to be sure.
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There's got to be a product for the need! The epoxy we used would set in under 5 minutes. You had to do small areas per mix. We used the black but found out adding color separately you could control the amount of pigment and use way less in order to make cleanup easier.
I've been out of that loop at least 10 years now, I'm sure there have been improvements.
Craig Harimon was going to get into this, not sure if he wants to divulge proprietary secrets.
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Chem-crete makes Chem-freezer epoxy grout for freezers. They recommend a primer, I think. Never used the products . Just did an interenet search.
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I found this one CEG-Lite from Custom Building Products. 7 hour cure time before light traffic.

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I found this one CEG-Lite from Custom Building Products. 7 hour cure time before light traffic.

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I think that's about what SpectraLock IG's is, too. It would probably work, but there'd be no warranty protection. How much that matters would depend on the customer, for me.
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Isn't this situation why that furan stuff exists?
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As far as I know Furan is for different types of chemical resistance. I've done it once I believe the area was where they cleaned out milk tank trucks.
I'd say fast setting epoxy, if it gets wet it may turn a little white, but it's hard to get out the door before places open up and go into operation. It needs to look pretty before you go, after that it's whatever. You just want to make sure it doesn't track when walked on.
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CEG-Lite is a nightmare to work with anyway. At least compared to Spectralock or Opticolor. Unless they've updated the formula in the last couple of years.
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Why is it a nightmare?
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Most of the easy epoxies use sand as the solid component. The CEG Lite actually used a sanded grout mixed with epoxy. It was a nasty sticky nightmare to apply and damn near impossible to get clean. Now that was 2 or three years ago, maybe longer if I'm not recalling correctly. They could have updated the formula by now to make it more like the competition. We only used it once and would never use it again.
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I agree with your conclusion. The manufacturers tweak their formulas because they don't work in the real world, New and Improved are code for that old stuff didn't work correctly.
A letter of apology, an explanation of new formula, and some freebies may help.
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Would TEC power grout work for something like this? It says open to traffic in 4 hours. I've used it for some jobs and really like it but never for a commercial kitchen that needs to be walked on in a couple hours. Maybe those with more knowledge can say if it will work or not.

http://www.tecspecialty.com/products...l#.VONplfnF-50.
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Not for areas of grease and cleaners, grease and cleaners will destroy portland/hydraulic grout. I've seen holes in the ground in between hollowed out grout joints.
Deep fat fryers are notorious for these areas needing regrout. I personally didn't like that type of work, though I didn't get the profit, just the hourly rate.

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