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Old 12-20-2007, 12:37 PM   #21
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One of the bigger dumpster haulers here has set up some kind of reclamation facility that they haul the cans to, then sort the debris into recyclables and waste. I would assume they make money on the sale of steel, aluminum etc.

I was thinking the same thing!!! LOTS of money in garbage, especially if you are recycling.
The guy that started Blockbuster Video sold that company and started a trash/recycling company (my friend is a geologist and works at the recycling plany)

... I bet they make more money in trash than renting videos!!

... I also heard a funny quote about the garbage man being the most important person in your life... If you don't think he is, just ask him to skip your house for a few weeks, then see how you feel about him!
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Old 12-20-2007, 12:48 PM   #22
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They went on Strike in NYC a couple of times. Not in the Winter...IN THE SUMMER. Talk About SMELL! It got nasty QUICK!

I use to recycle cardboard back in the day when it was worth something, then so many got into it, the price dropped to nothing.

Recycling is a HUGE Business. But then again, so are the price tags on the Equipment, DEC Compliance, Insurance etc.

There are two companies in this area that were shut down by the local government. They got tired of the mess.

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Old 12-20-2007, 01:06 PM   #23
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No doubt trash is big business... After all this discussion on garbage, I'm seriously considering making this part of my business.



BTW, does anyone know anything about 1 800 Got Junk? They are a national franchise and you see them on those home improvement shows all the time. I looked at their website a little, they are obviously making a crap load of money!
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:54 PM   #24
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DAMN!!!

Ok, now I'm REALLY thinking about this... here is a guy selling his business for 500k with an annual gross of $1.3 mil and nets $450k .... with only 5 employees???!!!

http://us.businessesforsale.com/us/D...-For-Sale.aspx
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You have to have $100,000 in liquid, but they also clain if you dont make $100K your first year, they will give you your money back.

I'm in the Dallas, TX area. The big trash companies around here have the area all sewn up. Unless you go very rual, but thats a good 50 miles before I could even get to an area to leave my cans at. I figure the start up to buy cans, a trailer and something big enough to pull it woul dbe way outside the money I have.
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the roof buggy is an awesome tool to have. you would never be able to move a small dumpster around as easily and quickly as the buggy. It also goes up about 12' and slides out about 10'. therefore you can extend it over someones garden and only have to pick up a small amount of trash that missed. Then when its full you drive it to the dumpster and dump it in. it saves many many man hours in cleanup.

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How can I determine how much I will be charged at the dump? Sorry for such a silly questions but thinking about getting into this business and got a couple of general questions. I want to know how much I will be charged. If I call the dump do I just ask for rates? Should I ask for someone in sales, a manager? Just curious. I really wany into this business. but, how do i determine how much i will be charded at the dump?
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My local landfill charges by the ton. You should just call your landfill and ask how much they are going to charge you. Every landfill has different rates so no one here can tell you for sure. You will need to call to find out. You can also call a local company offering these services and ask them what their prices are so you have an idea of what to charge.
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Thanks platinum, I think I am in. for a 10 yard they only charge $45.00 and for a 30 yard they charge $105.00 Guess I need to price my insurance and trucks next.
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I dont know what area you are in, but in some parts of the country the rubbish is fiercely occupied by some nefarious characters. Make sure you dont step on any toes.

Some hints..

Old driveways, put down 2 x 10s so the can does not sink in and rip the driveway up when you pick up the can.

Any way the customer plans on paying, get a CC number to back it up, a lot of contractors cut deals with rubbish haulers for a better rate. If they are changing haulers then they might not pay their bills.

Typically the can fee includes trucking service, 1 week of rental, ($20 a day after a week), and usually 2 tons of material. Mark up the tipping fee at the land fill by 20 percent. Bill the customer for all fees.

Find out what the billing cycle of your land fill is, and the billing cycle of the client. No fun when the landfill is every 90 days and the client is on 120 days, and there is 200 tons of material that has been dumped.

Find out what is considered "clean fill". Find recyclers for concrete, brick etc, tipping fees can be less. Find a place you can dump wood + brush for less, and market direct to tree services. You will make more money if you can keep from dumping at the landfill. Example- The client filled the can with oak logs. You friend sells fire wood. Ca- CHING!!!$$$$$$$$

Get a remote starter on your car.

The roll off business is driven by construction and contractors. Do plenty of B to B marketing and you should be able to build up a decent client base. Dont forget the guys that do basement clean outs, they can bring you plenty of business.

Good Luck!!

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jayrek,

Thanks a million for all of the helpful items. Sounds great and thanks a million.
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Go through the yellow pages and call each waste hauler. A new 10 yd hydraulic dumpster cost about 7K. Around here it rents for 220 to $400. There are a lot of hungry demo companies competing here in KY.
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In New Jersey? fagetaboudit.


And that roof buggy?
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The product prices range from about $14,000 - $40,000.
for a dump trailer that appears to be no larger than 8 yards? rather spend $5K for a Bri-mar and use the extra coin to pay two laborers six months to two years full time pay
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:13 PM   #34
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we have a triaxle and 15 containers from 10 to 30 yards mostly for our own work. but when we rent out its 575 flat fee for the first 3 tons then over that is 110 a ton. then for all mattress tires and white goods there are charges added to that. so far its been pretty good. we used to spend 1000+ per can now that we have our truck we spend alot less more like 400-800 for our own stuff. We are thinking of doing a few more things with the buisness we'll see what happens you should do it tho no matter what trash will always be there
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Don't do it I built one to use part time untill my millwright business get's going.When you do the numbers it never adds up you keep chasing number of bins needed and then you need more trucks then more bins and I never figured in replacement costs into the equation. Customers overfill, put acid batteries ,hazardous waste , Don't like paying, you need a secretary to answer the phone and that means to pay for her you need to move 6 bins a week there usually out for average two weeks so there is twelve bins just for her (26000 dollars) Bins don't move in the winter. The little trucks burn up trannys inexperienced drivers bend things.It seems to good to be true to people so everytbody gets into it and your prices will drop year after year.
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This is my first post ever, although I have been an outsight observer of this sight for a while. I have some questions about starting a business but I am just now at the beginning stages, basically just getting information.

My father has been the manager of a local landfill since it opened in 1995 and I worked there part-time while in college. So I have a "working knowledge" of the roll-off business but no real experience.

Hopefully my questions will lead to some informative discussion.
1) Is there any money in this for a small business. (dually, roll off trailer, about 5 small containers, and not much cash!)
2) Is anyone else in this business?
3) Is it possible to make money servicing the small contractor or do the big companies own this market?
4) Do you dispose of your own waste or do you currently use this kind of service? What have your experiences been?

Thank you for reading this long rambling post!
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I know this is past dated, but I just saw this post. The buggy is more versatile than the Bri-Mar trailer. First off you need a truck to maneuver the dump trailer around. Second the trailer is unable to unload into an on site dumpster, where the buggy can. You can't get the trailer close enough to house with gardens for the debris to end up in it, and the buggy can lift over the garden and slide out.
Once that trailer is full you have to take a trip to the dump, the buggy can be emptied on site into a dumpster, therefore saving travel time. On the smaller jobs, we just take the two buggy's out, fill them, and dump them at the shop. Once again, no trip to the dump.
I feel the buggy equals two labors, so it's a no brainer for me. It has countless uses, one of which is refreshing the mulch after a job. Go get it loaded with mulch and drive it around the house and dump it where needed. They are major time savers!
I know it may be hard to justify their cost, but they have proven to be extremely useful. After buying one and seeing how it went, we purchased a second. That should speak volumes in and of its self. They are both used almost daily.



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In New Jersey? fagetaboudit.


And that roof buggy?


for a dump trailer that appears to be no larger than 8 yards? rather spend $5K for a Bri-mar and use the extra coin to pay two laborers six months to two years full time pay
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First time poster, long time lurker. This being said, I am interested in getting into the roll off container business. My family is in the commercial roofing business (flat roofs-pvc, rubber, etc) We are located in MA but do jobs in MA, CT, and RI. Our last job, we went through roughly 15 30 yard dumpsters. Before I get ahead of myself, and yes I read and liked the idea of the small residential use containers, do you guys think it is a viable idea to look into the roll off business in our scenario? I'm thinking the idea is justified in the money we would save, plus there is always the hope that with time and good advertising the business could go somewhere. A local competitor charges $475 for a 30 yard container up to 4 tons and $85 overage. A 30 yard up to 5 tons is $525 with $85 overage. I've read that a fill charges roughly 115 to dispose a 30 yard- this could be grossly exaggerated/wrong so please bear with me. I will check sometime in the near future when i get time. So whats comes into play: a driver with a CDC- what do they make, roughly $20 a hour? Next comes insurance- no guess here, any takers on how much to insure a single truck worth 30-35k. Now we are onto the truck. I am venturing this idea on my own and I have saved some money, nothing too major. I've taken the EBAY route and found trucks with roughly 100k miles for 30k. I've seen others with 240k miles for the same price, so what am I looking for in a truck. I can only spend in the 35k range TOPS. For this price range, am I just getting into a problematic truck? One of the guys who works with us was a mechanic-whatever that's worth. Additionally, the job sites are usually an hour to an hour and twenty minutes away from our home base, one way (granted what really matters is where the landfill is). Next come containers. I've found 30 yard containers for roughly $1,700 a piece. Good shape, 6 to 7 years old. I"m thinking of purchasing 10 or so. Where I'm at fiscally = 35k for truck and 18k for containers. On a slightly different note, we are currently looking at a 5 Acre parcel of land zoned commercial to store our roofing equipment in. We don't need that much space, so I'm thinking of clearing whats needed to store the containers. Will commercial zoning suffice for roll offs? I've read industrial, I'm assuming commercial is the same? That's pretty much all I can think of right now. Its late, 3:34 A.M. to be exact- apologies if some of the questions are not grounded. This post is just me thinking out loud. I've read a lot of helpful posts and am hoping for the same. Thank you to those who took the time out to read my post. Best, Northorbetter
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I'm thinking about getting into the rolloff biz too. Probably start with smaller 6,8,10yd containers for residential and a sub-26,000 GVW truck. Once we get our operation going we'll look into getting a larger rolloff truck and larger 10,20,30,40yd containers. I've done a fair amount of research into the biz.

North - You can probably save some money but make sure you have the infrastructure to support it. Maintenance on a rolloff truck can vary. If the rolloff business is just for your family then you won't have as many worries as if you had 30 "cans" out to customers and your truck breaks down.
-Make sure you befriend a local hauler just in case you ever need a backup when your equipment is down.
-Dumping fees will be drastically different in different areas. Call the landfills for the best info and don't be afraid to ask stupid questions.
-Costs of trucks are all over the board with regard to the make and mileage. Consult somebody "in the know"... it will pay off in the long run.
-CDL rolloff drivers are paid anywhere from $13/hr (very low) to $25 and more. Check the classified ads and call rolloff businesses... pretend to look for work and ask about wages.
-Used cans/containers can be found all over. Do some digging. At all times there will be some guy on the other side of town desperate to get rid of his cans. Also good places to look for equipment (all kinds) are auction websites. It's amazing how far down bankruptcy can drive the price of even the best equipment.
-Zoning: most municipalities will have information on their websites about the different zoning classifications and what is allowed. You can also call the city directly OR a commercial/industrial real estate agent.

Let me know what any of you do or find out. I'm always in need of information. Thanks!
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a quick note regarding dump fees, which vary by state and location. With a commercial account in Delaware in mid/lower state you can dump for $42/ton whereas general public rate is $64-that has been a nice size savings :-)
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How do you go about setting up a commercial account and how does that work? I'm in Missouri but am curious about the process/qualifications...

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