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Old 10-22-2009, 06:58 PM   #41
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I would like to find more contractors or larger projects where people have money to spend. I get call but it's always the same thing the guy wants a price I give him low prices then they think I'm over charging them. Most of the car projects also the same way they have a family and a wife that is complaining how much money they are spending on that car so they want it for nothing. With bigger projects the only thing is being a novice have to make sure I make money. I don't want to end up paying them for the job. With this guy he was talking about renting my blaster have you have done that? I was thinking where I go there he picks up the slag and I just get them started come back later that day and charge him like $300 for the day. I would have to make sure they know how to operate it. Probably need insurance for that kind of stuff. I forgot to tell the guy to make sure his body shop guy blasting the coal slag wears blasting gloves that cover his arms in case he gets his arm in the way. I hear that stuff can take flesh off like nothing at full pressure.

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Old 10-22-2009, 08:38 PM   #42
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DO NOT RENT IT TO THEM! It's not worth the risk. What if they break something? Are you supposed to come right out and fix it? What if they do get hurt?
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I DO NOT RENT MY STUFF TO ANYONE!

It puts food on the table for my wife and kidds!!! Point blank

If he wants to do the job, let the A$$ find his own surplyer of grit and tools. let the A$$Hole sufercate in his own mess.

Just my 2 cents. Not good enuff to do the job, not good enuff to rent to his job!!!
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:11 PM   #44
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Guys I am still right. To make money, a thousand a day per blast hose. This is a play toy they expect to be charged. If you get off topic you lose money. The rust on this one is so bad I would charge three days then tell the guy your frame is shot. It is shot that looks like powder coat bubbles walk away. I could blast most of that in an hour and would tell the dude it is a lost cause. The metal is gone
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:25 PM   #45
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Kell 490, the largest supplier of ag chemicals last year in Arizona was Western Farm Services. I have seen the kind of steel they have in diferent states. They are now crop production services if you cant drive around and find out thier blasting and coating needs then you will most likley go broke within a year. Get it done no excuses. I kow this **** becuse my old my is a snow bird. He flies away to Arizona and always tells me we should go down there. I can now with the new Peterbilt. I found the tanks from Mn why didnt you? once again GET IT DONE.
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:42 AM   #46
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I'm assuming your talking about tank blasting do they expect to also to do the coating? I don't have the equipment to do that, but I certainly will call them up all they can say is no. I don't plan on going broke I have a good job I can pay all my bills even if I don't get any work but I want a 2nd income. I even have a good friend that is willing to blast when I"m working. I would like to turn 10k a month out of this thing I would be able to use the money to buy toys and keep working my day job. I work in the field so it allows me to take side trips to bid jobs during the week.
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:33 PM   #47
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The boat trailer guy called back said he priced out the stuff from sunbelt with 100# pot and a compressor cost was $750. He first offered to have me sit there and watch his guy blast the trailer. I told him if his guy blasted his arm or something with coal slag could take the skin off and then some. I also told him I wasn't going to allow his guy to wear my safety equipment. I don't want some guys face sweating away in my blast helmet. He offered to pay me $500 and have his guy help me or watch or something and then he would buy the media what ever it cost. I told him an extra $200 on top of the $500 plus he has to pay a fee to the Gila River Indian Tribe fee because they are on that land with a lease. Anyway so it worked out good he said his boss is mad because his paint and body guy is sitting all day and he wants to see him work so he will be my helper I guess. I will have him lift bags of media into the funnel. So I think it will work out anyway.
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:35 PM   #48
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I hate when people want to "help" I want them to stay the heck away from me. They just get in the way and slow me down. "Thanks, I don't require help. Here's the price. Do you want it blasted or not?" That's how I feel about that.
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Old 10-24-2009, 08:01 AM   #49
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I tell people that my insurance does not cover people, that is not on my pay role, to work with my equipment, (liabililty etc..)

then I tell them for safety that they need to be at least so many feet away too.

gets them away for awhile....
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Old 10-24-2009, 08:57 AM   #50
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I already told them while I'm blasting he have to stay back away from it.
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New Age Blast Media is always a viable alternative!
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If i could I would take to to another blast location, turn on the sand and charge 120.00 an hour and ask him to tell me when to stop. I tell them all that i am working for by the hour 120.00 for sand 160.00 for soda just tell me when the money runs out and i stop. I try to work fast and everyone seems happy.
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I hate when people want to "help" I want them to stay the heck away from me. They just get in the way and slow me down. "Thanks, I don't require help. Here's the price. Do you want it blasted or not?" That's how I feel about that.
Amen brother preach it!!!!! I don't blast for free
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:53 PM   #54
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I would have started at $800.00 and negotiated clean up. Maybe take off $100.00 if they do the clean up and they think they are getting a deal. I want to see pics of this gravity box .
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:57 PM   #55
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I don't get all the dancing around with pricing. It's $700. bucks (or what ever you see fit for a particular job) Plus material. Do you want it blasted or not.I have owned my own business for twenty years. If I don't control a job it doesn't happen. Isn't that the point of being self employed.
The point is to consider the job offered to you. The travel the complexity and so on. Have a minimum price, mine is $300. I won't do a mobile job that I will profit less than $300. I figure a good full day rate is $1000. Every job fits in to one of four spaces for me. $300 $500
$700. Or $1000. When you don't have a system similar to this you will find your self strugling to come up with a price. You are nogotiating with your self. Having just a couple of levels makes it very easy to pick a profit you are comfortable with and of course you could still tweek it if you want to. Material is always extra. I personly just add $5 bucks to my shipped cost to cover my self for fuel and maintanence. I just priced a job for a trucking company to blast five cab frames. I didn't negotiate with them or my self. They have given other work and will use me more so I don't want to hurt them. I told them $300 each plus media. Done. Did three Monday and two more tomorow.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:32 PM   #56
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My question is how can this job still be here. This trailer has been a topic for two weeks. In that time payrolls have to be made. What happend to finding tanks. When I was gone from this site I found ways to make money. Did you? This is the first year I have ever shut down in October. I made my money I have pay roll made for four guys. I did it. How about you men. I am shut down. We made enough to get us through the next couple of months untill march. I get tired of crap. GET IT DONE
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:37 PM   #57
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I dont like to hear about how hard it is to find customers and how hard it is to please them get it done.
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I don't know if you've done this yet, but I just did a trailer very similar to this. You should charge at LEAST $1000 and don't think twice about it. After about 10 hours I still wasn't done and I had over $500 just in gas for running, media, etc. GET PAID or don't do it. Are they going to put it up on sawhorses for you or are you going to have to roll around on the ground? Imagine how long you'll be on your knees looking straight up and how bad your neck will hurt. Start at $1000 and go up from there. Trust me.
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Old 11-11-2009, 06:28 PM   #59
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no one can know exactly how much it will take to blast anything. Once again don't try to figure it out and hope you won't get screwed and worry the whole job if you are using too much and loosing your ass. Cut all that bull s out once and for all. It's easy. You only give them a price on your service. Just concern your self with the profit you feel is fair. It's $700. plus material. Material is x amount per bag. It takes what it takes. They can stop you anytime they wish. Pay you the $700. and for whatever media you used so far and you get to go home early and still make the same cash. Never never never blast at your expense! If they did it them selves it would use media that they pay more for than you do in bulk and the junky pot and no experience means they would use more than you will anyway. The only extra is what you agree to be your profit and that is it if it goes quickly or easy or they give you back massage while you are working. It's $700. for the service not about $700. and we will see if it goes easy or hard or what ever. " I'd be glad to take care of that for you, my service charge is $700. and there will be a media charge of $15.00 per bag. From my experience I would say we could be looking at 20 to 30 bags for a job this size but I will simply use as little as I can and as much as I need to get the results you want. so just figure maybe four to six hundred for media. When would you like to schedual"
It's that simple.
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:34 PM   #60
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The managers at the place changed there mind could have been the disclaimers I put in the contract they looked at who knows. There was a lot of rust in the thing I put in there I wasn't responsible if after I was finished some areas had missing metal.
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