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Old 08-04-2009, 04:07 PM   #21
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I am new to soda blasting, but think its a rapidly growing industry that I am thinking of starting a business featuring mobile and having a space where I would setup a blasting booth inside. I am in the process of writing the business plan to go after an SBA loan and l am learning as much as I can about the industry. One important thing I haven't been able to answer is which is the best built system overall from a design perspective? I've seen several models, but have to defer to people that are actually using systems today for that answer. I also have a couple of other questions as I am writing the plan and hopefully you would be able to shed some light on those as well. They are:

1. Would it be wise to purchase 2 systems and have two crews working simultaneously? Is there enough work coming in daily to justify this? My plan was to have people working for me at the outset as I get out there an market the company, what services we provide and how it can benefit them as well as doing quotes, selling etc. I would look to send someone to the training or find an experience blaster(s) to work for me.

2. Is there more work than just blasting cars for the most part. Do you most auto body places have their own equipment or would it behoove them to sub this out? I've seen the list of many uses which these systems can provide, but has the work been there in the restaurant, airplane, graffiti removal, and other areas for people? In the area I am trying to start this would be accessible to aircraft, ships/boats, graffiti around the city limits, and a large amount of restaurants.

3. Have any of the vendor provided you with business plan information or related information which they run their business operation?

4. Have you seen much business in the insurance industry with regard to using soda blasting to remove mold, smoke damaged wood whether commercial or residential?

Thank you for all of the information and sorry about the excessive questions? I just want to learn as much as I can while planning this venture.

Thank you,

Bob
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:05 AM   #22
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I just went though the SBA process and my check is with the vendor now he is building my mobile system now. I went with Soda blasting systems they had a business plan I modified. If you want to know more about that let me know. It wasn't has tough as I thought it would be. My only advice which isn't based on much because I haven't done this before is to start out with as low amount of overhead as you can. I plan to lease a building once I grow to a point where I can afford to do that. Until that time I can only do mobile blasting which limits where I can do that.
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I just went though the SBA process and my check is with the vendor now he is building my mobile system now. I went with Soda blasting systems they had a business plan I modified. If you want to know more about that let me know. It wasn't has tough as I thought it would be. My only advice which isn't based on much because I haven't done this before is to start out with as low amount of overhead as you can. I plan to lease a building once I grow to a point where I can afford to do that. Until that time I can only do mobile blasting which limits where I can do that.
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You got the best blasting pots right there sodablast gear is the best.
I take it your getting the pro mobile unit they are a tad overpriced for my liking i bought a pot and after cooler seperator ect off of them and bought my own compressor it saved me a bucket load my pots the skid mounted type the sb100 and it works a treat i blast everything through that pot garnet,glass,copper slag and soda the only problem ive had with the unit is a cracked vibrator unit i rang sodablast and i had a new one in 24 hours.
Now getting the correct media flow on them can be a bit tricky at first if you get stuck i can talk you through it and dont just get a soda pot get the multi media pot because you will soon find out that soda has its limitations and is slow compared to other media.
Good luck with the soda blasting business hope you do ok.
I wouldnt be able to have a look at the business plan i didnt get one and it might give me some ideas.
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In the best interest of your new company I would like to speak with you. Click on my name and give me a call. I know you will be interested in what I have to say.
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:45 PM   #25
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Thanks guys for the opinion's and information. I appreciate the feedback and media pot information. Kelly would you be able to share the original business plan that they provided with me so I could modify that to fit my business model? If you're willing to send it to me, my email address is bobs1769@hotmail.com. I'd appreciate that....

What did you guys have for hourly rates? I saw that Chesapeake Soda Clean gets $160.00/hr with a 1.5 hour minimum on in shop blasting and on the mobile side they get $160.00/hr with a 3 hour minimum of $480.00. Commercial and residential they also price on Sq. Ft or hourly charge. Additionally they charge for mileage for trips that are over a predetermined distance. I don't think that is excessive and after thinking about it for a while is probably right in line of what I would charge and then you could beat your competitors pricing if the job is worth working on.

I looked on soda blast systems website and didn't see a multi-media blasting pot offered by them. Do they have that available on their site or is it something that you'll have to contact them about?

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http://www.sodablast.com.au/main.php...42441a0dc8e616


There is the link for the multi media pots.
They are exellent.
They also require less air to operate ive got about 130cfm using the medium sized pot thats on a skid plate and ive just bolted it to the A frame on my trailer.
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Thanks guys for the opinion's and information. I appreciate the feedback and media pot information. Kelly would you be able to share the original business plan that they provided with me so I could modify that to fit my business model? If you're willing to send it to me, my email address is bobs1769@hotmail.com. I'd appreciate that....

What did you guys have for hourly rates? I saw that Chesapeake Soda Clean gets $160.00/hr with a 1.5 hour minimum on in shop blasting and on the mobile side they get $160.00/hr with a 3 hour minimum of $480.00. Commercial and residential they also price on Sq. Ft or hourly charge. Additionally they charge for mileage for trips that are over a predetermined distance. I don't think that is excessive and after thinking about it for a while is probably right in line of what I would charge and then you could beat your competitors pricing if the job is worth working on.

I looked on soda blast systems website and didn't see a multi-media blasting pot offered by them. Do they have that available on their site or is it something that you'll have to contact them about?

Thanks Again,

Bob

Bob,
I sent you an email also I bought the SB500 which is the largest pot they sell it does it all. I hope to have the machine next week and I can start to use it. I already have a job lined up been trying to hold him off till I get the machine.
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I sent you an email also I bought the SB500 which is the largest pot they sell it does it all. I hope to have the machine next week and I can start to use it. I already have a job lined up been trying to hold him off till I get the machine.


I wouldnt mind a copy of the business plan also my email is win.k.1@hotmail.com

It would be greatly appreciated.

One problem i found with the sb500 pot that i now use in my workshop when i had it set up on the trailer the soda in the pot use to settle and compact down and not flow when i drove a decent distance i like to load as much soda on board as i could thats reason why i changed to the smaller unit for mobile work allso the larger pots do chew through the soda a fair bit more my smaller pot is a lot more freindly on soda use but i love the big pot for the work shop as im not realoading every 40 mins

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I have a soda job on the horizon for the labor day weekend. The job is an 18 hour blast of a food extruded I have already blasted once in 02'. My question is, how would you do it. I already know how long it will take 18 straight hours and close to a pallet of Natrium. The job cannot stop. Production will resume after the weekend or we are charged for down time. Just for ****s and giggles propose a plan and write a bid for me. Pa
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I have a soda job on the horizon for the labor day weekend. The job is an 18 hour blast of a food extruded I have already blasted once in 02'. My question is, how would you do it. I already know how long it will take 18 straight hours and close to a pallet of Natrium. The job cannot stop. Production will resume after the weekend or we are charged for down time. Just for ****s and giggles propose a plan and write a bid for me. Pa

Maybe see a truckie mate with some chemical assistance you could last the 18hrs
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Im not trying to be smart I would really like to know what kind of numbers you guys would throw at it. The job is a tough one I will be there 18 hours straight, I plan to charge for it also. It starts on a friday night and will run until the job is done. My question is how much do you think it should cost. I dont want to screw my self by thinking Im charging a huge sum of cash when someone else may think its way to cheap. I just want a ball park on how you would charge on a holiday weekend, after putting in a weeks work already Mon.-fri.
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Your material cost Times 80%
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If you get in touch with me I know the information I can provide will benefit your business. Click on my name and the info is on there.
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i think your cinsumption rate is off...18 hrs of straight blasting should not use a pallet of soda.i would say the job would cost somewhere between 6 and 7 grand...that is figuring the job with media and overtime work as well...and i am not trying to be a smart ass but if you are in business and you come on here saying the things you have in the past about small timers and all and little guys how come you are asking questions about your own skilled trade?noone knows it all but in the past you sure have stated you were more on top of this trade than anyone else...i will always look for help on here and i will always try and help...it is nice to have another perspective of a fellow in the same trade...see my new post and see if you can help.
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If you get in touch with me I know the information I can provide will benefit your business. Click on my name and the info is on there.

Mellon are you some type of spam bot?

And if some one calls you i bet you have somthing to sell them.
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Im trying to mend up my rep. I have had many boom years with tons of stress. I have only ever met one person in the trade that really gets what or where I am comming from. He is a thirty year vet. of the trade and has run thirty blast hose jobs. We work together yearly. I have time on my hands this year and want to share what I know. Benny Abbot is a large part of this. The guy has been on jobs far and beyond what kind of work that I have done and will help out anyone. I feel I have sold the people who are tying to better themselves short by acting superior to them. I started out the same as everyone else and I need to help out others the way my mentor helped me. I also understand that everyone has a contibution to make. I have employees I cant stand when deadlines have to be made but I love them for thier atention to detail at clean up time. I have been blessed with a company that made it. I should share that with others.PA
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I would probably hit that job between 325 and 400 an hour for a crew and materials this is only due to the difficulty described, I usually do pretty well @ 150.00 to 200.00 an hour if I'm just bidding something that is not sq ft related.Every job is different though. I run MMLJ equipment (Sb150) Ive shot soda and coal slag through it. You have to swap out valves to shoot slag or it will tear up the deadman valve in about an hour, not kidding, but I can usually run 45min to an hr on 1 pot.I have run into jobs where the soda wasn't hard enough therefore I used a lot, but a pallet does seem excessive for that amount of time. I haven't shot natruim though.
My input for what its worth.........
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pa...good post and we appreciate all input as we are the same dude just in another part of the country.

rlaird...sounds like we think alike in the bidding game and i have only shot natrium and know nothing else.
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Ooops just googled (natrium) just another name for sodium bicarbonate...
I stand corrected.....
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I might have something to offer here i shot some painted brick work a while back and i ran low on soda and i still had some calcium carbonate left over from when i blasted some steel wine tanks and they needed a water soluble media thet would do the job after speaking to another operator i bought some calcium carbonate and it works well you can even remove mild rust scale as it is quite hard on the moh scale now when i shot this at the brick work it worked about 3 times faster than soda and is still a food grade media so it should woork well

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