Precast Cement Panels

RIDGERUNNER

I think he's the owner or rep for new age blast media. He's trying to sell you some crushed glass. If that's not the case maybe he should MAN-UP and help everyone out like he says.

ausisoda

Well last time i looked this is contractor talk not I want to sell **** talk if he wants to contribute that's great if he wants to peddle his wares well he should do that else where.

Look we all know crushed glass is an awesome blast media hell the stuff i use on auto body steel is like fine powder and you wouldnt think it could do anything but it works great i love the stuff i never soda blast at all now its completly replaced it in my book guys bring me diffs and other car parts and they love the finish it leaves just white smooth unmarked metal screw soda its to slow and doesnt do that great of a job I giggle to myself when my compititions customers bring me stuff after there not happy with after the soda job

blastserv

i have been saying that about soda for a whilke now and i got chewed about it by some other members...funny thing is it is true...soda does have a few uses but....do you guys recycle the glass?or is it swept up and tossed out?

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ausisoda

I throw it out.
The stuff i use is more or less powder it cuts rust and removes paint well with out leaving much or any profile even at 60psi its quicker then soda but some customers still like it and request it so it gets done.
I even tried it on an old aluminium ladder today and its just fantastic.

after its shot its to much effort to sweep up and reclaim besides i get 1.5 ton for $160 AU
There would be no point.

Mellon

To All,
I read on contractor talk about the different jobs and projects that people are involved in. Yes I'm New Age blast Media. I only want to help people in certain situations that glass can be an alternative.I feel that if I can clear up some misoconceptions and provide a company and especially a start-up company with a viable, cost effective, and true green product to help them get going, then thats what this forum is all about. When any of you recomend a certain product or blast pot, isn't that the same as me sharing my knowledge of crushed glass. I only ask to contact me because I feel it is a bit more personal that way. I don't get the man-up quips at all. Trying to get information and the best possible product to people in the industry is what we all go on here for.

blastserv

i pm'ed youi...

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Jakkel

You use fine grit or ultra fine? I have used med and fine. But havent tried ultra fine and was curious about it.

blastserv

2 nights so far from 7pm to 5 am blasting then a hour to load back up and a 45 min drive home but it is coming off fast except for the areas they applied peel away.almost done with the biggest section of three...maybe there will be some profit after all...

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ausisoda

The stuff i use is called 30/15 which i think is the same as your ultra fine it maybe smaller then you get in the states i use it on all my car stuff customers love the white metal finish and it doesnt roughen the metal i did some leaf springs the other day and it didnt touch the ruberer bushes this stuff is the new soda.
when i first got the stuff i thought you have to be kidding this wont cut but i was pleasantly surprised at the finish it left once you try it you wont go back to the courser grades on auto steal and parts its awesome and im the only guy that can get this clean fine white metal finish in my state so i owe my income to this wonderful product it just removes the coating so fast soda blasting has nothing on this stuff.


wow mellon your a real dude for everyones benifet could you start a thread about all the advantages of crushed glass this would help your business more then just asking people to contact you after a while it gets a bit old seeing the same style of posts from you.
The advantages of crushed glass thread (with pics) would get people interested to contact you.
and by doing this you wont seem like a dick that just posts up.

contact me i can help your business out

peace to you and yea us blokes and especially us Australians love to stir each other up a bit.

rlaird

Yeah,
Good Idea Ausi,
Mellon, some pricing would be good too, I haven't used any yet, been thinking on it.

blastserv

3rd night and lost a bit of progress last night...the lower 3 sections of scaffolding was in my mind gonna be the quickest because i did not have to stage my gear up any levels.but the walls had some kind of rubber paint and i figured i used around 33lbs of media per square foot last night.NOT GOOD....but i think the rest of the sections on other parts of the buildings are goona be different.tonight i take a break while the laborers move all the scaffolding to the next section.

by the way i went out to reed minerals(lucky for me they are here in town)and purchased the pallet direct and it turned out i was using the very fine grade of black beauty and that is what i bought again.they have a fine grade that i will purchase i am thinking on my next pallet to cut it a little quicker.the place is weird...it feels like your in another country when you are there.mountains of black beauty everywhere...

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blastserv

laborers loaded my blast pot on the man lift and when they did they ripped one of the wires out of the electric solenoid for the deadman...total waste of a night ...all the gear up and then all the gear down a total of 4hrs lost due to the clumbsy hands...

as for the media i went through the first 30 bags of extra fine and i did not like the cutting speed.i opted for a super sack this time and went for the fine grade and it was stipping real nice and leaving a really good profile...meaning it was not tearing up the concrete near as bad as the very fine due to the speed it was stripping and the dwell time was decreased therefore not pitting up the panels as bad...home at 1 am is no good once you get yourself on a nighttime routine...

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blastserv

pulled the solenoid off the pot today and resoldered it to the circuit board inside hot glued the wires where they come out of the cover and back up and running...i do have pics but let me get through the job then i will post

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user20594

Blastserve Im back in town for a couple of nights and read your posts. That rubbery stuff is an elastomeric. The hotter it gets the slower it comes off. You my friend are having a learning expierince. You have to stay on site to make sure those guys are not wrecking your equipment. I dont know all the details but I have been through this kind of stuff and can feel your pain. I dont have any really good advice. I have been through it and when it really looks bad its not just get through it and you will be okay, It will make you a stronger better owner. The only way to get it off faster is to adjust your angle of blast, outline loose spots blow them off, and reach as far as you can outside your scaffold so you dont have to move it so much. If the surface is going to be recoated only remove the loose stuff. Thats all I got good luck I'll check in later. drove 12 hours today from missouri. pa

blastserv

pa i did make the mistake of not riding up in the man lift with the gear and not aiding in the removal of it onto the roof...i was down on the ground drinking red bulls and getting the rest of my hoses hooked up and what not.
i figured it was elastomaric paint when i was on it and the angle of the nozzle did help alot but it was also the extra fine black beauty i was using at the time it seems to wear it away in spots faster therefore wearing the cement and making the wall not as nice as i would have prefered but it was only on one spot of the job.

i worked all night last night and was killing some serious sq ft with the newer fine grit of black beauty.then at the close of the night i lost the air solenoid now on the pot.one thing for sure is the surface tek although being super conservative on media it sure is finicky and wants me to throw it off the building at times.

on a good note the contractor that i am working for asked me to do some more parts of the building and said there is possibly another building they are bidding on so if they get the other building then i can have all the work on it to wich means a little more negotiation is in order but i feel he is happy with what i got going on because he keeps handing me checks every night for a grand or more because he says he doesnt want it to hurt so bad at the end...that is ok with me...

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user20594

blastserve, The general contractor sees a guy busting his butt and doing a hard job. You may be onto a great customer. The more effort you put in the more people want you to work for them. The job I just got back from was supposed to take 21 days. The job was supposed to start on sept-2 they made an emergency call because the goveror of Missorri was comming, we did it in nine days the GC handed me a bonus on monday morning aug 31 job done. We ran 18 hours a day used special moisture curing primers and came in one day ahead of time, on spec.

user20594

blastserve, Update on the job. looking forward to hearing from you

blastserv

been getting the odd ball stuff that is real hard to access done.the job is starting to get to me...i go out drive and hour set up ...another hour to get all my gear in place where it needs to go...then i blast for an hour or two then come down of the building and drag all my gear home.there is a fight over the boom lift so we are trying to share but two jobs need to be done at the same time so i understand.i am just finishing up the front of the hospital and all the little stuff they added to the job once i was there...one more night of finishing touches and then on to the backof the hospital where the final tower will be done.probably 3-4 nights worth...

i am now not so sure about my surface tek pot weather it is right for heavy abrasives like slag...it is super with starblast,cob,soda...but the larger abrasives like to cause issues...not to mention the laborers left my first super sack uncovered because they needed there tarp for something else.so i went to reed yesterday and bought my second super sack.now it gets put in my truck every night and i take it home with me.wet slag does not work at all.i even have the larger groove tip for the surface tek pot and it was working great for the slag but he pot was strapped to the man lift and it might have been putting pressure on the tip and chambe sideways and cuasing it to slowly go in and out.tonight will be a different lesson i am sure...totally something different.

i laughed cause i have been working my ass off and i got a call yesterday to blast 13,000 sq ft of wharehouse flooring and i told the guy 1.90-2.00 per ft and he was somewhat interested but i thought to my self i need to work some of the bugs out of my operation before i take on even a bigger job.

i am selling an old vehicle of mine and would benifit by buying some larger gear and maybe a larger compressor.

pics soon........

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Betterblast

Blastserv, I use surface tek also. I was looking at lifts , which I have not yet needed to use one, And they are not wide enough for the pot to fit in. At least they don't look to be. Were you able to have the pot with you on the lift. If so do you remeber what brand of lift they were so I could look for a local rent al of them. What size compressor are you running now. I have the 185 but I about to ugrade to a 450. Do you know if I have to upgrade the moisture filters on the S>F> Tek pot?

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painter213

Your blast pot os way too small. If it will fit into a manlift basket, then your equipment is way to small for the work that your trying to do. Get a 6.0 CU FT. Clemco Blast Pot and at least 150' of 1 1/4" Blast Hose with a #6 to a #7 Blast nozzle. This will get to doing most good size jobs. Of course you need air to run it, so you will need at least a 375 CFM Air Compressor to run it. Make sure that your air supply line from the air compressor to the blast pot is at least a 1 1/2" though. Do not try running your big blast pot off of a 3/4" air hose. Those little Surface Tek pots are more for a home owner or someone doing small parts. Not enough hose and the piping is way undersized for large jobs.

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