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02-19-2008, 04:33 AM
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Chris
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SANDBLASTING
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Indiana
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I have to come up with a $$ for blasting this.
Well, I dont even know where to start... What do you all think? It is painted with that Carc military paint which is some tough stuff....
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02-19-2008, 04:51 AM
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Pro
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general contractor/ remodeling
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Orange County, Ca.
Posts: 1,944
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Looks like T&M to me. If they want a hard price...I think $100k ought to cover it.
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02-19-2008, 11:08 AM
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Tony
Trade:
Media Blasting and Powder Coating
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Kill do a test blast and see how long it takes to do a few sq. ft. and how much media you use. then you should have a good idea of what it will take and what you need to charge for it.
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02-19-2008, 12:03 PM
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MEDIA GUY
Trade:
ABRASIVE MEDIA BLASTING; SANDBLASTING
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 137
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I agree with Bulldog. Do a test and base your time and materials from that. Is this for the military or the private sector. If it is military do they require specs on the profile. If so check with your media distributor. They will help you match the grit to the profile in mills.
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02-19-2008, 10:19 PM
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SANDBLASTING & REMODELING
Trade:
SODA BLASTING & REMODELING
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,436
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inside out?
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02-23-2008, 12:47 AM
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Chris
Trade:
SANDBLASTING
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 472
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Just the outside, and it is one of the government surplus items given to local Law Enforcement..
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05-09-2008, 01:26 AM
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MEDIA GUY
Trade:
ABRASIVE MEDIA BLASTING; SANDBLASTING
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 137
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Killzone,
Following up...Did this ever pan out for? Did you ever blast this?
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05-09-2008, 11:33 AM
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Registered User
Trade:
House Construction, framing, remodeling, home improvement, painting, decks, and roofs
Join Date: May 2008
Location: MA / NY
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Hey guys just a little IMPORTANT info here watch blasting anything like a tank that is camo, olive drab, desert tan, flat black, or green. It this was a mil service vehicle it may have been painted with CARC paint, which is bad news...... Be careful........
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05-09-2008, 04:03 PM
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SANDBLASTING & REMODELING
Trade:
SODA BLASTING & REMODELING
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,436
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what is this carc paint?
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05-09-2008, 05:11 PM
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Pro
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Project Manager/Licensed Remodeler
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: St. Paul, MN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by plazaman
what is this carc paint?
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Chemical Agent Resistant Coating
http://www.milspray.com/CARC_Technical_Paper.pdf
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05-09-2008, 10:41 PM
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Chris
Trade:
SANDBLASTING
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 472
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Nope havnt done it yet, they are not in any hurry and I never gave them a $ yet. Sorry it took so long to get back, I kind of lost track of it...
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05-09-2008, 10:46 PM
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Dapper Crapper
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I am not your bank!!
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Dog House....NE, In.
Posts: 5,092
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Quote:
Originally Posted by killzoneq2
Nope havnt done it yet, they are not in any hurry and I never gave them a $ yet. Sorry it took so long to get back, I kind of lost track of it...
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Because its camoflauged?
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05-09-2008, 10:51 PM
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Chris
Trade:
SANDBLASTING
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 472
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Yep, I lost it???LOL
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05-11-2008, 11:04 PM
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Registered User
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House Construction, framing, remodeling, home improvement, painting, decks, and roofs
Join Date: May 2008
Location: MA / NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by plazaman
what is this carc paint?
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I have been aroound this stuff before. I had to drill steel and cut a few things with a sawzall and was instantly transferred to the Med office for training and a chemical mask resperator.
The sand and material should be considered HAZMAT after blasting.
Make sure you have a fresh air system and wear a mask its not your friend by any means.
Personal health. The most common health hazards involved with overexposure to CARC paint are irritation of the respiratory tract, nervous system depression, headache, dizziness, unconsciousness, coma, and allergic sensitivity. Chronic exposure may result in asthma-like respiratory disease and symptoms of overexposure are often delayed. Personnel known to be allergic or sensitive to isocyanates should not paint with polyurethane’s. (May cause seizures as well)
Medical surveillance. Anyone using polyurethanes more than 30 working days per year should be provided preplacement (before the job) medical surveillance. This surveillance should include: occupational and medical histories with exposure to isocyanates, or organic solvents, and lead; a history of allergies; skin, blood, heart, urinary, and respiratory monitoring; a physical exam and chest X-ray; complete urinalysis; a blood-lead determination; a blood test of liver function; EKG (for personnel over 40); and proof of the ability to safely wear a respirator. Ongoing medical screening for current workers should be in accordance with regulatory requirements.
Need anymore info I will do my best to help you!
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05-11-2008, 11:08 PM
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Registered User
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House Construction, framing, remodeling, home improvement, painting, decks, and roofs
Join Date: May 2008
Location: MA / NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by killzoneq2
Yep, I lost it???LOL
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Was this a Gov bid contract or?
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05-13-2008, 04:10 PM
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Chris
Trade:
SANDBLASTING
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 472
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Local government, I never got a chance to bid it yet. They keep dragging there feet.
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05-13-2008, 04:58 PM
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Pro
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Squirrel Handler
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,438
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Quote:
Originally Posted by killzoneq2
Just the outside, and it is one of the government surplus items given to local Law Enforcement..
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What the hell is local law enforcement going to do with that thing?
How many donuts will it hold?
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05-13-2008, 09:15 PM
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Pro
Trade:
Low Voltage
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Burlington, Ontario
Posts: 1,233
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Where the hell do you live that your Local Law Enforcement requires an M113?
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05-13-2008, 10:52 PM
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Chris
Trade:
SANDBLASTING
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 472
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Wayne County Sheriffs Dept. and the Richmond Police Department in Indiana both have one. They were military surplus given to both agencies. What there plans are, I dont know.... I am sure they will be in every parade and SWAT will use it in armed stand off situations Im sure.
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