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Old 02-27-2018, 07:42 PM   #1
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I am going to have the opportunity to bid on a job blasting the interior and exterior of a 100 year old store that is being renovated.

The owner is talking about soda blasting to freshen the wood and remove odor. I am aware of the problem with paint not sticking to metal after soda blasting on cars. Is it the same on wood?

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Old 02-27-2018, 07:51 PM   #2
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What about cold blasting?

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Old 02-28-2018, 12:38 AM   #3
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We talked about dry ice. He is pretty set on soda. We are on an island so getting the equipment and dry ice here is not real easy.
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Blast with Soda beads, clean up, blast/wash with soda remover/cleaner clean up again? Two riggs? More air?

Love to see the before and After pics.

What hoops do you jump through for lead abatement and disposal of the Toxic dust created? landfill fees for legal disposal of lead dust?
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The owner is doing testing for the lead issue. We and I stress the WE so I don't get blindsided will have an onsite chat with the county EPA before I start.

I have read some of the warnings here regarding lead remediation.
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Bob, I did the inside of a house like that, lots of exposed natural product, wood, stone, etc. that needed a mild strip but the place also smelled really funky but that's not why they hired me. Shot everything with walnut shell and had the desired cosmetic effect but the owner was really liking the atmosphere in the place, the walnut got rid of the odors and created a nice woody aroma that totally changed the feel of the place. Easy clean-up too, soda would have been a nightmare IMO.
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Hey Sand Pot, good to hear from you.

Yeah the cleanup is a pain with soda. I have not shot the interior of a building with walnut shell. The thought of the woody scent may be appealing to the owner. I will suggest it. What grit of walnut did you use?
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I spent a few days using crushed corn cobs to blast the rafters and roof planking in a building. We also tried crushed walnut shells. The corn did less damage while cleaning the surface. The wood was not painted.

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Southbluff, thanks for another soft option. Do you know if it will help with odor?
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Southbluff, thanks for another soft option. Do you know if it will help with odor?
Sorry, I cant say if the corn helped with odor. I certainly didn't hurt though. This was not a customer. it was a friend and I on his building. Neither of us had any experience blasting before. The results were absolutely worth the effort. I know we had 2 grits of corn. Ill try to find out which worked best, IIRC the larger grit was better.
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Sand blasting paint won't fix a leaky roof, sewer pipe(s) or dry sewer traps.

You need to find out WHAT is stinking, rotten wood(black mold)? old supplies, old chemical spills, dead plants or animals/insects, bird and bat manure? (extreme health hazards to cleaners). Get a pro nose.

Washington St uses Fed lead rules.... County?????

Is the building ON a historical building register? Many more hoops to jump through, Lots of naysayers with NO skin in your game.
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Thanks 4thGen.
The odor is coming from rotted wood that is being removed, no vapor barrier and not much room to breathe below the floor, residual smoke and cooking grease.
The building is not on any historic register. The new owners are taking the building to bare bones and adding shear/wind and earthquake strength. Being a commercial building they are going to bring it up to current code. All work is being permitted and performed by licensed contractors. No short cuts.
The interior has been redone several times. We are going to test for lead before I sign any contracts.
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Bob, how did u make out on this project?


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They are kind of stalled right now trying to get permits. Right now it looks like I will only be shooting one interior wall due to lead concerns.
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Bidding on a historic restoration myself this week. About 1,400 sqft of cathedral ceiling with exposed timber rafters and trusswork. I can even see the shake through the lathe work. Concerned we might blow through.

And then he tells me he wants me to remove all this old paint on the entrance. Is it lead based? Youbetcha.



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Cabindoc,

We cannot over stress check out the local regulations on lead paint removal. It can be tens of thousands of dollars in fines. All it Takes is one person driving by and making an anonymous phone call.

Working inside you may get away with it but if you shoot the outside make sure you are in compliance. It is not worth the risk. Do a search for lead paint removal. Lots of good reading.

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