Staining ?'s

Celtic

If I were to attempt to stain a door made of two different types of wood [poplar and oak] would it look good or like crap?

TIA

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HallisseyDesign

I think it would look goood. Staining is staining. I really don't understand what your trying to ask? 2 different stains (tints) one color? Natural will look just fine. Pictures please.

WisePainter

Two different types of wood = Two different types of grain.
I recommend using a wood conditioner before applying the stain in order to achieve a uniform appearance.

Are the inserts poplar and the stiles oak then?

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neolitic

That's where I'd call in a real pro.
You need some type of stain/sealer combo,
probably sprayed.
If you just use a penetrating stain, it will
come out as two different colors.

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HallisseyDesign

With this door, the 2 different woods will never truly match- popular will be a more consistent color with oak it will have streaks due to grain. More detail about the door would be awesome!

Celtic

More of a mis-mash

The panels are oak
Some of the rails/stiles are oak...some are poplar
The trim on the insert...don't know what it is.

Left side


Close-up of a knot?


Right side:




Mrs. also wants some "thing" on the small upper panels....not any of these, sort of like a seashell looking thing:



Paint or stain the doors?

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WisePainter

I would have to recommend painting the doors.
With 3 different types of wood (1 unknown, more than likely pine?), and the poplar used for the rails/stiles is from two different boards it would be impossible to stain it and achieve an even color. Not to mention the unknown wood type used for the decorative attachments.
Also I noticed the other doors/trim in the room are painted already.
Yup, paint em'.

EDIT: Awesome photos used for illustration purposes!

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neolitic

I'm with Wise.
You did a very nice job of
building a paint grade door.
Paint it already.


BTW: Nice handwriting too.

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Burby

Try a gel stain first then if it don't look as you would like, then you can always paint it.
Gel stain you can do so much more than with regular stain as far as consistancy of color over different types of wood when used together as you have. You have nothing to loose by trying this first and if already have stain applied by the time you read this and don't like the looks, you can still go over the reg stain with the gel stain, then again if not satisfied, apply the paint, if nothing else you will have a well sealed product..

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mickeyco

Poplar stains like crap (excellent for painting), it gets blotchy, oak stains well, use sanding sealer and a gel stain.




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Celtic

The trim is one coated...the doors are only primed ~ not that makes any difference here.

I'll snap a shot of the whole wall....for "effect", ya know...and we know how everyone likes pictures.



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Celtic

What can I say?
I'm a product of private schools

I'll have to upgrade my skills to "stain grade".

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Celtic

Not painted or stained at all yet.
I visited a buddy today ...while there I used his planer for a detail I wanted...pix tom'row

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Celtic

I'm thinking the gel - with nothing to lose but precious time [there is a self imposed deadline] - won't hurt...no?

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world llc

the cheap way to go is a gel stain.

if you want to do a good job your goung to have to bring 3 (one of each material) samples into a stain store to custom tint all 3 stains to match when applied on the dis-similar woods

not sure where in jersey you are, but i go to a store called Tungol in Paterson when i need custom stain... it's a 1 of a kind store!

NAV

just paint it and wood grain it.

hoya

have you looked into wood conditioners. kinda acts like a primer for stains. makes stain on different woods look more uniform.

UK Painter.

You'll have greater control and more chance of achieving your goal if you use two different wood stains to get to that final finish.
The second picture shows what looks to be a yellow smear on the Oak panel, probably wood glue. Whatever it is needs to be removed, applying a stain now will only magnify it and no wood stain will penetrate through a sealed wooden surface. You need to lightly sand the whole door with 240 grit to remove dead wood fibers thus exposing fresh grain, it also ensure's that any contamination such as finger tip grease is removed, as well as pencil marks or scuffs.
I have found Benite to be the best wood conditioner around, apply it and wait 24 hrs before applying any stain. It is possible to take several different woods and stain them so they all match but it requires alot of experience and patience. For best results I'd use a dye stain followed by an oil stain. And clearcoat it with a sanding sealer followed by several coats of Lacquer.

Or you could save yourself a huge headache and paint it....

Jordy3738

If everything follows the same pattern with all of the parts and pieces, then it would look fine. After all "glazing" cabinetry doors is a big deal and a popular item. That's a two tone look, right? I say go for it.

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Leo G

The only possibility of making this look like a good stain job is to not stain it. You need to use a colored clearcoat. Seal the door with a clear and then use a few coats of tinted clear. This is the only chance you have of making it look like you know what you were doing. The grain is going to screw you anyway. Even it you paint it the oak grain is going to show and the poplar is going to be smooth. If you stain it, go dark. If you paint it, use something to fill in the oak grain, spackle, putty, bondo. Anything to fill the grain will make the door look better than it is going to look if you just paint it.

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