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Originally Posted by meets1
I have used a Vogal Epoxy Paint. I have only done a handfull of floors over the last 2 years but seem to be doing well. I just don't like acid washing the concrete before hand. - paint rep told me the steps to do and therefore that is what I do but is there an easier method. And what do you guys charge for this service?
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Not sure that it is easier but with most systems floors can be grinded insted of etched. This is the method I use. Like I listed in my post Versatile Building Products has many different systems for different types of jobs and the results that are expected. Versatiles Roll on Rock System 2 can be applied without grinding or etching the concrete in certain situations. For this to work the concret must be not have any type of sealer on it. If you do get a floor where the concrete is pourus and there is no sealant you can apply system 2 after you clean up any oil spills with v-100 degreaser (or equivilent), scrub the floor with a lighter mix of V-100 and water and let dry. After of course patching any cracks and divots. The manufacturer details in their install guide that their product can be applied directly to concrete without a sealant without grinding or ethcing. That being said I have done nearly 30 floors and I have only done 2 without grinding, one of which was nearly brand new and the other was a basement floor in great condition with no sealer preasent.
A two car garage done with system 2 will run you at least $700 in materials.
For enough of the two part 95% epoxy direct to concrete chip reciever coat for a normal sized two car garage it will be about $130
Then you will need a 50 pound box of chips that will be thrown to rejection (expecially important if your not expirienced throwing them) is $150
For the topcoat I use the 73% solids 5073 which comes in two gallon kits, you may be able to get away with one on a small garage but I would buy two, but after you get more and more jobs you will allways have some extra on hand and know how much to order. This topcoat is EXTREMLY HIGH gloss and it dries exactly the way it looks when it is wet so it is important to roll it on very evenly. There are many other topcoats that you can choose from but this one in particular doesnt yellow even outside. It is also rated for high forklift trafic and is resistant to all household chemical
Then you will need the materials for cracks and divot repairs. For this it really depends on the job. For crack repair versatile has two types of epoxy crack fillers one that dries with in an hour (can be as quick as 20 min), and this is what I use on smaller jobs where I can prep and apply the epoxy in the same day. Or the have an overnight dry which is slightly easier to work with and cheaper that I use on larger jobs.
The best way I have found to fill cracks with epoxy is to order some empty caulk tubes, mix the epoxy and then inject it into the crack with a caulk gun. Slightly over fill the cracks and the grind the excess off either the next day or after it dries depending on which one you use.
Not sure if this info is usefull to anyone, but I know it would have been damn usefull to me before I got started. I tried quite a few systems before I stumbled upon these. They have many systems. They have a waterbased sysytem that is extremly easy to apply for DIYers and still better than what they could get at the big box. Then they have system two which I spoke of above. Then they have another onew day system of 100% epoxy that can be laid and topcoated in the same day
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