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Old 04-15-2009, 10:56 PM   #1
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What would you quote to build this cedar greenhouse (ballpark)

Lean-To Style Cedar Greenhouse utilizing recycled sashes with polycarbonate roof

25' long.
12' deep.
10' tall where connects to house
6' tall along furthest wall from house
On a concrete slab already in place.
Include one side door (6 light), with screen door.
Include 120V Gable Fan on thermostatic control on opposite side of door.
Install one small client provided double hung vinyl window near door.
Include one cedar 25' shelf along far side. ($200 worth of cedar 2x4's)
Screw mount 16 insulated sashes along far wall. (Two rows)
I'm charging client $20 a piece for these used sashes. They are roughly 2-8 x 3-0 = ($320)
Install two client provided round top windows each 3-6 x 5-0 into the side walls

The roofing with be clear 14' polycarbonate panels on 24" centers of 2x10 rough sawn cedar. The panels and will costs about $500 in materials
I was quoted $60 a piece for 14- 14' 2x10's (Georgia)($900)

The three walls are framed with rough sawn cedar 2x4's :
spaced as wide as the sashes (about 32") along the front and then 16" centers on the sides.

The 2x4's were around $18 apiece at 16' and I will order about 30. (600)

stain all of it with a clear oil of some sort...?

My numbers come in around $10K. I'm kind of new at this and tend to undervalue my service, yet I do awesome work. Tired of getting my nuts cut off, so someone please tell me that my quote is too cheap.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:33 PM   #2
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What exactly is a cedar greenhouse ballpark?

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What exactly is a cedar greenhouse ballpark?

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question is.. what kind of ballpark franks will be served at said cedar green house ballpark!
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At some point in this business...you figure out what it will take YOU to do the task.............................................. ................and that's your bid.

Low or high...you'll get a yes or no from the customer.

If I can do it for $1000 less than you...do you REALLY want to try and match that. Chances are you'll lose money. That's never good.

Never mind.................too much typing


ditto what Mac said.
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question is.. what kind of ballpark franks will be served at said cedar green house ballpark!

Ball Park franks smoke over cedar chips.....yumm I'll take two and a Tecate.
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This one was about treefiddy...

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Ball Park franks smoke over cedar chips.....yumm I'll take two and a Tecate.
hells yes! LOL or just some good ole' IPA of sorts
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Learn your numbers so you don't get your nuts cut off. Even with all the numbers listed above we can't tell you if you are charging enough, too much or not enough. We don't know how fast you work, what your OH is, or what your Profit / Rainy Day Fund goals are
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A shower in the ballpark? That'll cost'em

Didn't see any plumbing in your numbers...

$10,674 (+ sales tax on mat.)..........see, you're way too low
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Old 04-16-2009, 08:58 PM   #11
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My apologies

I wanted a quick guesstimate as what you would tell yer buddy, when he asks you "about how much is a greenhouse like this gonna costs me?".

The term 'ballpark'...ahh nevermind.

Looks like knuckhead got it, but I wonder if he thibks I am building a ballpark?

Eitherway, thanks Knuckle, I'm gonna rethink my estimate.
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I wanted a quick guesstimate as what you would tell yer buddy, when he asks you "about how much is a greenhouse like this gonna costs me?".

The term 'ballpark'...ahh nevermind.

Looks like knuckhead got it, but I wonder if he thibks I am building a ballpark?

Eitherway, thanks Knuckle, I'm gonna rethink my estimate.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say nobody thought you where building a ballpark...And,again,out on a limb,but I think Knuckelhead may have been joking...

We need to get a sarcasm smilie...
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Hey...he took those plans directly from my web site, I want $1,500.00.

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I wanted a quick guesstimate as what you would tell yer buddy, when he asks you "about how much is a greenhouse like this gonna costs me?".
Actually, what you wanted (for free) was an exact bid (or bids) to compare against your own. I mean, you were very specific in the details, down to line item material costs.

As for 'buddy'?...you've got 17 posts total on this site - no one here even knows you, let alone considers you a buddy. Oh yeah, that, and my buddies don't ask me how much...when I build for my buddies, they pay me in BBQ and beer!

No, no one thinks you're building a ballpark. What we're doin' collectively is givin' you a ration of sh*t for asking a 'How much do I charge' question. Those are not outlawed here, however they are ridiculed (for free).

As for your nuts, might I suggest wearing a protective cup when presenting your next bid...

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stain all of it with a clear oil of some sort...?

I would use Crystal Clear Wing Oil, made from the tears of angels, very expensive though. I have the right contacts. Cost is $ 4000 a quart. Based on the size of your projects I'd say you need about $24,468 worth.
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Well, I wont ask that question again. Your hazing was effective.

I now realize that I am going about the estimating process backwards.

Thanks for bustin my balls.
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Well, I wont ask that question again. Your hazing was effective.

I now realize that I am going about the estimating process backwards.

Thanks for bustin my balls.

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