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06-10-2008, 06:58 PM
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Quote from Green Builder Magazine
I find it ironic when publications with audiences who use math all day long every day make statements such as the following:
"A 1/8" gap below an exterior door is equivalent to a 4" hole in your wall."
-Green Builder May 2008
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06-10-2008, 07:14 PM
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I had a "builder" want a discount today on a small amount of Cultured Stone because he was a "green builder". I told him that a green builder would be using real, locally quarried stone and cementious stucco instead of fake stone and synthetic stucco. And tacked on 10% just because.
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06-10-2008, 07:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by orson
I find it ironic when publications with audiences who use math all day long every day make statements such as the following:
"A 1/8" gap below an exterior door is equivalent to a 4" hole in your wall."
-Green Builder May 2008
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Hmmm,
36"÷8=4˝ sq in.
Sounds kinda like a
4" hole to me as well? 
Maybe just too much math today.
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06-10-2008, 07:31 PM
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Try more like a hole the size of a basketball.
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06-10-2008, 07:48 PM
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I get a round hole about 2.4" in diameter.
36"x.125"=4.5SqIn
3.1416x1.2"x1.2"=4.52SqIn
(A 4" square hole is 16SqIn)
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06-11-2008, 06:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tscarborough
I get a round hole about 2.4" in diameter.
36"x.125"=4.5SqIn
3.1416x1.2"x1.2"=4.52SqIn
(A 4" square hole is 16SqIn)
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Math or semantics?
4 inch hole, or 4 square inch hole?
Or 4 inch diameter hole?
Who knows what he meant to say.
I'd fault his english before his math. 
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06-11-2008, 10:52 AM
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Real "Greenies" are ALARMISTS and therefore EXAGGERATE with the intent of instilling fear. As was done in the publication sited above.
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06-11-2008, 11:12 AM
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Green contractors my ass, they're green until they see the price. I'm a green builder, I use treated lumber all the time, it's green.
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06-11-2008, 11:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeyco
Green contractors my ass, they're green until they see the price. I'm a green builder, I use treated lumber all the time, it's green.
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Tell us now........How do you really feel? 
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06-11-2008, 12:29 PM
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Most people are just green because they think it means the job will be cheaper. Which as we all know is the opposite. What i find ironic is who is setting the standards for what is green and what isnt. Is a green building today going to be evil and wasteful in 2 yrs 5yrs 20yrs from now. why in the future will the planet need even more protection than it does now.
(of course the answer is the planet needs to be rid of all humans to be truly free).
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06-11-2008, 01:02 PM
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Holy crap!, I just realized I've got a 4" hole in my building, a 1/8" gap around each of the two silcocks and a 1/4" gap under the door, what the hell is that equivalent to?
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06-11-2008, 01:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeyco
Holy crap!, I just realized I've got a 4" hole in my building, a 1/8" gap around each of the two silcocks and a 1/4" gap under the door, what the hell is that equivalent to?
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It's equivalent to you just single-handedly destroyed the planet. THANKS ALOT, MICKYCO!!!!!
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06-11-2008, 01:16 PM
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I'm a "Green" builder also...I like getting paid in "Greenbacks"... 
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06-11-2008, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeyco
Holy crap!, I just realized I've got a 4" hole in my building, a 1/8" gap around each of the two silcocks and a 1/4" gap under the door, what the hell is that equivalent to?
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To a hole in the Ozone Layer and the deforestation of the Northern part of the Southern Hemisphere.
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06-11-2008, 01:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john5mt
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(of course the answer is the planet needs to be rid of all humans to be truly free).
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This is the outcome of our species eventually. It is the Natural Order.
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06-11-2008, 01:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by send_it_all
It's equivalent to you just single-handedly destroyed the planet. THANKS ALOT, MICKYCO!!!!!
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Originally Posted by MALCO.New.York
To a hole in the Ozone Layer and the deforestation of the Northern part of the Southern Hemisphere.
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Sweet.
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06-11-2008, 01:26 PM
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Quote:
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This is the outcome of our species eventually. It is the Natural Order.
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06-11-2008, 01:46 PM
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The sky is not falling anywhere near me. 
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06-11-2008, 04:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neolitic
Math or semantics?
4 inch hole, or 4 square inch hole?
Or 4 inch diameter hole?
Who knows what he meant to say.
I'd fault his english before his math. |
Hey neolitic, can you grab me a 4" hole saw?
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06-11-2008, 08:21 PM
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Quote:
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Hey neolitic, can you grab me a 4" hole saw? |
Depends, you want a round hole?
Square?
Ovate?
Perhaps octagonal?
What does a hole look like?
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