Green Is DEAD!

Teetorbilt

'Green' is what sells nowdays. I'm looking into certain aspects of the business. We all have to smarten up or go under and I'm not wealthy enough to retire.

There are/will be a lot of advantages in going 'green'.

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Inner10

I think its a bit ridiculous and contradictory, I believe in screwing the world and enjoying my time on it...as far as destroying it for my future children, if they listened to me then they will be sharp enough to figure something out.

But in the meantime its a great sales pitch for home automation systems and I'm milking it for all its worth!

pipekicker

nice attitude

NNY

I don't push it but I am willing to go there if need be and it is good to have some product knowledge about green . I would hate to lose a good job because I was not doing mine .

Angdeer

I wouldn't say concern for the environment drops during downturns. I think we are just a bit more frugal with our money, you have to be. On the flip side going green doesn't have to be $$$. McCarthy is an excellent option http://www.mccarthy.com/about/green/

JimHo

When gas prices went through the roof a few summers back, everyone sold their suv's and even started driving slower to conserve fuel. The gas prices went down, and we're back to our old ways.
It seems that the only way that we'll really go green is if the alternative isn't less expensive.

Tom R

The only thing getting 'greener' is the politician's and their cronies' pockets.

I'm not overly-anxious to follow their 'mold', - - most of their new products main ingredients are hype and hooplah, - - remember 'greenboard'?? . . .

naptown CR

If you are referring to green board which is a moisture resistant drywall it was named so because of the color of the paper and could be easily identified from regular board. the green name had nothing to do with the curent meaning of green.

Tom R

Actually, - - I was referring to the hype of faulty and non time-tested products and the word green brought greenboard to mind as one them.

Total garbage, - - as most of these new products will turn out to be.

But I digress, - - as most of you will buy into it anyway, - - some because of the money, - - some because of the fantasy.

How's that 'Gore-Bull' warming sensation goin' for ya'll??

JohnFRWhipple

To say Green Building is dead is a joke.

What is Green Building? A fancy light bulb, some new windows or a new computer that switches off your lights?

I don't think so. Green building is about recycling waste, keeping our landfills in check, building things once so they don't need to be redone, building with materials that don't off gas for ever and each and ever man doing their part. If you can't afford the best materials instal the ones you can right. Break down the cardboard - all of it. Recycle your drywall and concrete. All scrap metal to the recycle yard - every job.

It is so easy to just $%^&^^ it in the bin. It costs money out of your end and the clients to build it green.

I'm willing and doing my end - my clients are doing the same. What about you? Do you really want to retired early and leave behind your waste and that of your clients for your kids, my kids???

Think about the job of a lawyer - how can he/she cut down on energy and waste? Turn off laptops, read emails don't print, bus it to work, pack a lunch etc. How much waste does a lawyer generate in a year? Maybe 2-3 full F150's.

Now think about us. How much we generate - maybe 2-3 F150's a week, a month?

This business produces a lot of waste if things are not well managed and kept in check.

Do your part and I'll do mine.

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Tom R

I'm sure most are willing to do their part, that's just obvious.

The 'green' movement is generally an antithesis of what it claims to be, though.

How's the new glues those enviro-pesks require for the plywood workin' out for ya', - - the one's that allow it to delaminate within a few years instead of 50??

Bet ya' can't wait for that callback, uh??

Let's see, how much do we save by doing the job twice??

The green movement, as a whole is 90% pure BULL*****, - - working diligently and recycling materials is common sense.

hughjazz

Maybe 95%

I'm all for global warming anyway.

It's friggin freezing here all winter.

Al gore promised it was going to warm up finally

TimberTom

Green building is vital to the sustenance of our planet. We have done more than enough damage over the years, especially since the industrial revolution.

I agree, that in difficult financial times, the added cost of using green building materials is difficult for many to swallow, but if you are selling a project to a client, make sure to highlight the savings in energy costs over time. They usually more than make up for the added initial cost. Also, as many commenters already spoke of, there are many tax credits and breaks for those who build "green"

I am in no way a tree hugger, but even in my short lifetime, I have seen weather patterns change, hurricanes get more violent, and other phenomena which lead me to believe that the planet may very well be in trouble. We need to act now if we are to have any chance of slowing down or even reversing the damage we as industrial humans have done.

TimberTom

I did a simple Google search of "green building materials" and here are the first three results. I thought I'd save you guys the time of doing yourselves. You will see the first article is about what actually constitutes a green building materials, and the second two are places to buy and search for different green building materials and products.... I hope even a few of you take a look, and consider switching over to more environmentally friendly product/material selection.

Green Building Materials: Sustainable Building

Oct 5, 2009 ... A definition of a green building material... including product selection criteria developed by the California Integrated Waste Management


Green Building Supply, Non Toxic Supplies, Environmentally ...

Green Building Supply features natural and non-toxic building materials -- that are safe, environmentally friendly and sustainable.

Building Materials, Products, Manufacturers - Sweets Network ...
Building materials, products, and manufacturers on the McGraw-Hill Construction Sweets Network. Download CAD details, specs and green product information.

BKFranks

http://www.housingzone.com/probuilde...CA6590396.html

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Brickie

Man made??? Really???? Guess you never heard of "ClimateGate"????


the 1079 emails and 72 documents seem indeed evidence of a scandal involving most of the most prominent scientists pushing the man-made warming theory - a scandal that is one of the greatest in modern science. I’ve been adding some of the most astonishing in updates below - emails suggesting conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organised resistance to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims and much more. If it is as it now seems, never again will “peer review” be used to shout down sceptics.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/a...hadley_hacked/

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TimberTom

Brickie, what is the motivation of the scientists you claim to be involved in this conspiracy? On the other hand, I am pretty confident that there is pure financial motivation to continue polluting the planet with CO2 and other chemicals. The "there is no such thing as man made global warming" theorists are the same as the smoking lobbyists who say there is no relation to smoking and lung disease. They are profiteers.
You cant tell me that renewable energy and eco-friendly products are harmful to the environment. With that being said, I'm pretty sure when I see black smoke coming out of a smokestack or a truck, that it cant be good. A little common sense goes a long way.

Brickie

They are profiteers.

Amid the thousands of files apparently lifted from Britain’s Climate Research Unit (CRU) last week sit two documents on the subject of the unit’s funding. One is a spreadsheet (pdj_grant_since1990.xls) logging the various grants CRU chief P.D. Jones has received since 1990. It lists 55 such endowments from agencies ranging from the U.S. Department of Energy to NATO, worth a total of £13,718,547, or approximately $22.6 million. I guess cooking climate data can be an expensive habit, particularly for an oft-quoted and highly exalted U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) chief climatologist.


Nice try, but your straw man argument doesn't cut it. Nothing in my previous post made such a claim.




Again, a straw man argument.



Perhaps you should practice what you're preaching:


The IPCC, AL Gore, etc., have been totally discreditted with this "Climate Gate" Scandal.

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TimberTom

Sounds like right wing babble to me. I read and researched your points, and it is more steeped in conspiracy BS than the Kennedy assassination.

Brickie

The University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (aka Hadley CRU) is totally Left wing. They're the guys on your side, the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth/hoax side. The 1079 emails and 72 documents from Hadley CRU totally discredit them, the IPCC, Al Gore, etc.,

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