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CJKarl · 08-18-2008, 08:45 PM

CJKarl · 08-18-2008, 08:45 PM

CJKarl · 08-18-2008, 08:47 PM

Built by a landscaper....no backwall.

Not a chop on landscapers, but this one was no mason.

**genecarp** · 08-18-2008, 08:52 PM

NICE, hope all the pieces are there

artisanstone · 08-19-2008, 06:09 PM

That looks like some beautiful pieces in there!

CJKarl · 08-19-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by artisanstone

That looks like some beautiful pieces in there!

Old train bridge material. There is a wall on the the other side of the building
no backwall either, still standing...Only because the stones are about 6'X4'X16" thick.

artisanstone · 08-19-2008, 06:34 PM

Are you rebuilding it dry?

CJKarl · 08-19-2008, 07:17 PM

Of course.

6stringmason · 08-20-2008, 01:51 PM

That just looks like a headache!

CJKarl · 08-20-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 6stringmason

That just looks like a headache!

You must open your mind, grasshopper. Longest journey begins with 1st step.
Get the backhoe in there.

Tommy C · 08-25-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CJKarl

Built by a landscaper....no backwall.

Not a chop on landscapers, but this one was no mason.

When you say "backwall" are you referring to the second wythe?

CJKarl · 08-28-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy C

When you say "backwall" are you referring to the second wythe?

I would basicly build a mirror image of my face wall, much rougher of course. With all the stone that's too ugly to put in the face. Also use some long stones to tie the face and back wall together.

artisanstone · 08-28-2008, 06:49 PM

That's the only way to go with dry work. The big thing with gravity walls is that all the weight should act as one unit. Depth should be approximately one third of height. On small walls, (up to 4'), we often build a single wythe (8"-14") with through stones tied into a gravel backfill. This is for cost saving reasons and because it works (on a small wall). CJ's method is superior, and the only way to go on a big one. For ****s and giggles check out www.drystone.org . They build some really big ones.

Tommy C · 08-29-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CJKarl

I would basicly build a mirror image of my face wall, much rougher of course. With all the stone that's too ugly to put in the face. Also use some long stones to tie the face and back wall together.

That's what I thought...just different terminology I suppose

Tommy C · 08-29-2008, 09:40 AM

CJKarl, in this instance, will you be back buttering the stones? Also, will you slush the center (between face wall and "back" wall) with mortar?

I feel like I'm always asking you questions about dry stack walls, because it seems that you do a lot of them. I have never done one (just mortared), but would like to try one in the near future.

CJKarl · 09-04-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy C

CJKarl, in this instance, will you be back buttering the stones? Also, will you slush the center (between face wall and "back" wall) with mortar?

I feel like I'm always asking you questions about dry stack walls, because it seems that you do a lot of them. I have never done one (just mortared), but would like to try one in the near future.

This one will be completely dry. If I use any mortar it will be some stiff stuff to help me make sure the cap stones lay in nice and secure.

On a tighter wall. Like a double faced garden wall that's being built as an accent to the plantings as much as it is something useful. I would tend to lay the stone dry, but slush the middle solid at the end of every day.