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Bigbricklayer · 01-10-2009, 02:13 PM

This is a job we just finished up. Built in 1950 looks a lot better now then it did.

Also the fireplace is inside the same building.

mdshunk · 01-10-2009, 03:03 PM

That stone exterior is a neat effect, but there's just no good way to get lick and stick stone to look right on 45 degree corners. There's going to be no way to get cover plates on those receptacles over the hearth without cutting the covers. Bummer.

threaderman · 01-10-2009, 04:22 PM

Looks nice from a plumbers eye.Looks like MD is right about the receptacle covers though.

MALCO.New.York · 01-10-2009, 04:25 PM

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There's going to be no way to get cover plates on those receptacles over the hearth without cutting the covers. Bummer.

Hidden behind the Plasma!

threaderman · 01-10-2009, 04:27 PM

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Hidden behind the Plasma!

Look lower.

mdshunk · 01-10-2009, 04:28 PM

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Hidden behind the Plasma!

Cast your eyes a bit lower, to the left and right.

MALCO.New.York · 01-10-2009, 04:34 PM

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Cast your eyes a bit lower, to the left and right.

Oh so observant one......TOTALLY Fooked !!!!!!! Snip. Snip. Grind. Grind!

Ya did say Hearth and NOT Mantle!!

mdshunk · 01-10-2009, 04:38 PM

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Oh so observant one......TOTALLY Fooked !!!!!!! Snip. Snip. Grind. Grind!

I normally slip the blade of a sawzall in along side of the box and nip off the nails. Move the box up just enough so that the plate will sit tight on the (in this case) hearth. Run a couple drywall screws in through the side of the box to re-secure it. I hate to see a plate snipped off. Always looks like crap. My "repair" method described requires no patching or painting.

MALCO.New.York · 01-10-2009, 04:49 PM

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I normally slip the blade of a sawzall in along side of the box and nip off the nails. Move the box up just enough so that the plate will sit tight on the (in this case) hearth. Run a couple drywall screws in through the side of the box to re-secure it. I hate to see a plate snipped off. Always looks like crap. My "repair" method described requires no patching or painting.

As long as you do not, and I know you do not, raise it too much. (but there are always midways and jumbos if one needs a second chance at the "reset"). Sit that plate RIGHT ON the Hearth just perfectly!

And YES ANY modification to a plate looks like hell. So damn incongruous! It would be the first thing that I see upon enter the room. Then I could not mentally leave it alone.

WarnerConstInc. · 01-10-2009, 06:04 PM

Lick and stick stone, that is classic.

Tinstaafl · 01-10-2009, 06:36 PM

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Move the box up just enough so that the plate will sit tight on the (in this case) hearth. Run a couple drywall screws in through the side of the box to re-secure it. I hate to see a plate snipped off. Always looks like crap. My "repair" method described requires no patching or painting.

That's usually how I do it--but I've had a couple inspectors ding me for that little gap created at the bottom edge of the box. I slap a little mud in there just in case.

mdshunk · 01-10-2009, 06:39 PM

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That's usually how I do it--but I've had a couple inspectors ding me for that little gap created at the bottom edge of the box. I slap a little mud in there just in case.

The insepctor would be within his right to ding you (or me) for that. I always have silicone caulk in aerosol cans. I'd probably squeeze a bead in there.

(I know I asked you before, but I forget. What town are you in, Tinstaafl?)

Tinstaafl · 01-10-2009, 06:48 PM

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(I know I asked you before, but I forget. What town are you in, Tinstaafl?)

That's the second thing to go, you know.

I'm in Enola. My eldest just signed in for his first semester at Ship yesterday, so I'll be looking for your horse when doing taxi service (he's rooming there, but has no car).

mdshunk · 01-10-2009, 07:21 PM

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That's the second thing to go, you know.

I'm in Enola. My eldest just signed in for his first semester at Ship yesterday, so I'll be looking for your horse when doing taxi service (he's rooming there, but has no car).

That's right. Say, give my cell a call sometime when you're in town and I'll buy you dinner or supper or something. 816-4214

There seriously are a lot of horse and buggies in town here, so be careful. The town police in Ship are real cool, but if you come blazing up behind a buggy, they'll nail your butt to the wall. The campus police are a different story. They're no so cool, and they have full police powers. They're serious about all that 10 mph stuff on campus.

MALCO.New.York · 01-10-2009, 07:27 PM

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That's right. Say, give my cell a call sometime when you're in town and I'll buy you dinner or supper or something. 816-4214

There seriously are a lot of horse and buggies in town here, so be careful. The town police in Ship are real cool, but if you come blazing up behind a buggy, they'll nail your butt to the wall. The campus police are a different story. They're no so cool, and they have full police powers. They're serious about all that 10 mph stuff on campus.

The Campus Police are a "Private Sector Force" and have GREATER Jurisdiction!! And more "To Prove". Arseholes in a bunch!!

Tinstaafl · 01-10-2009, 07:28 PM

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That's right. Say, give my cell a call sometime when you're in town and I'll buy you dinner or supper or something.

A Free Lunch?!? I'm there!

thom · 01-10-2009, 11:51 PM

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I normally slip the blade of a sawzall in along side of the box and nip off the nails. Move the box up just enough so that the plate will sit tight on the (in this case) hearth. Run a couple drywall screws in through the side of the box to re-secure it. I hate to see a plate snipped off. Always looks like crap. My "repair" method described requires no patching or painting.

I got a yellow tag for doing just that. I filled the drywall gap but he dinged me for the exposed screws inside the box, tells me that is not a manufacturer approved installation method.

Tinstaafl · 01-11-2009, 12:04 AM

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I got a yellow tag for doing just that. I filled the drywall gap but he dinged me for the exposed screws inside the box, tells me that is not a manufacturer approved installation method.

Yep, technically correct, though as far as I'm concerned, it falls into the "C'mon, get real" department. You could theoretically have a live wire inside the box contact one of those screws, carrying voltage outside to that poor naked unsuspecting stud.

If you have a clue that you're up against one of those guys, go the route with a remodeler's box.

6stringmason · 01-12-2009, 06:51 AM

Looks good!

31b · 01-12-2009, 04:05 PM

I'd say just rip 'em out (side receptacles).

I mean - are they really necessary??

granted I can't see the rest of the room, so I don't know where other receptacles are in the room, but I think they're pointless right there where the fire place is.

...or am I missing something that you'd need them for?