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Old 02-03-2018, 12:59 PM   #1
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So, my P-trap tubular fell off the kitchen sink just now. Breaking it apart to clean it up and it looks like someone used pipe dope on the threads?

I thought these weren't supposed to get anything at all, but I do know a couple of plumbers that like to use a little bit of silicone on the threads.

I'm going to patch this together for the weekend, and call a real plumber on Monday, but just wondered what the general opinion was for sealing the threads on tubular?

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Old 02-03-2018, 02:26 PM   #2
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Just put the pipe dope on the beveled washer or on the bevel of the U , no need for it on the threads

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I think some guys do it so they don't shake loose over time, which they often do, esp. with a garbage disposer.

That's a wild set-up.

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If that works, it does show that water does run up hill!
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That is about the most Dr. Seuss looking P trap I have ever seen....And I've seen some things...
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That's not even close to a legal trap arm...and no pipe dope necessary
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and it's gotta be one smelly azz sink
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That looks like one of those projects the plumber is like... how will I connect this?? 🤔 here maybe this will work.... maybe this... let's get done so we can leave.... whistling
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That looks like one of those projects the plumber is like... how will I connect this?? 🤔 here maybe this will work.... maybe this... let's get done so we can leave.... whistling
100% homeowner job...parts bought on a crowded Saturday morning at HD with kids in tow.
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100% homeowner job...parts bought on a crowded Saturday morning at HD with kids in tow.
You should see some of the rest of the house.

It has worked well enough over the last four years that I had never given it a second glance. I'm definitely not a plumber though.

It's patched up for now, will be getting my plumber on it next week.

BTW, love the Dr. Seuss comment. I usually refer to these things as Fisher Price, but will keep Dr Seuss in mind.

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Why was this a

>>> "SURPRISE" <<< ???

I'm not a plumber, but the first time I looked under the sink I'd be EXPECTING to redo this sometime in the near future.

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The funny thing is it appears all that nonsense isn't even needed. Shorted the stem from the strainer. No pipe dope, but often the plastic nuts need to get re-tightened every once and a while.
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Mine was held up by a coat hanger when we moved in. I figured hack, it's held this long, why worry about it.

It decided to five way after I filled both sinks with funky nasty waste water while cleaning.

Of course, I just retied it with a new coat hanger for a while until I fixed it.

That worked great until I dumped a pot of old leftover soup in the sink.

I did fix it that time.

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Why was this a >>> "SURPRISE" <<< ???

I'm not a plumber, but the first time I looked under the sink I'd be EXPECTING to redo this sometime in the near future.
I'm obviously not a plumber either, and I knew it didn't look like the pictures in any plumbing book I've ever seen. But I didn't know it was that bad.

After all it worked for the most part, for the past 4 years.

Texted the pic to my plumber and his response was "That's a mess man"



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I have stuff in my house that wasn't done to code when we moved in 32 years ago, and it's still working just fine. Go figure.
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Uh, whoever did that piping is an idiot.

It flows uphill after the trap. No reason for that at all. The tailpieces are just too long. What a fvkk up.

And no, you don't pipe dope PVC threads, as a general rule.* Certainly not a trap arm with a washer in it.




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If it was a bowl and a half sink the tails are the right length the wall outlet is too high. I can't see the 2nd bowl. I am assuming the one I can see is the shorter bowl.
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If only they made disposers with a higher drain outlet..even a half inch or so would be cool. Know what I mean?
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It's a full two bowler. The pics are showing the whole contraption where it fell about an inch. A coat hanger to hold it up would likely be a perfect long term solution

Every single kitchen and bath I've remodeled we've had to lower the drain outlet.

On this one, I'll open up the wall from the outside and rework the drain height. I've been replacing my siding this winter and have had to replace a lot of the Osb sheathing by the Windows anyway. The house was tyveked in spots only,and where there is housewrap, it's not correct.

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