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Water Line Question
I was told that you can't form a u in a waterline and that it won't pass inspection. what I'm doing is going around a steel beam. i won't to go down over and back up which will kinda of look like a trap. is this against code. i was also told if i did then you wouldn't be able to drain the water down but i thought i could put valve with a drain plug there. any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Water Line Question
Not enough information to answer your question accurately.
If you hire a local plumber he will know. |
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Re: Water Line Question
If that's what your local inspector told you, then thats how it is.
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Re: Water Line Question
the inspector didn't say i couldn't do it that way. what really is the problem is that my brother told me it says in the code book that you can't form a u in a water line. i have looked over and over the code book and couldn't find anything relating to it. me and my brother work for my father who is a plumbing contractor i was just checking to see if anyone would know if there is a code about this. the problem will be worked out. It's just just a argument between two brothers trying to keep dad out of it.
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Re: Water Line Question
I have never seen a code that forbids a trapped water supply line.
I would never trap a supply line if there was any other alternative.
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Re: Water Line Question
My code does not say that, but the code I use, you don't use.
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Re: Water Line Question
I understand that you shouldn't i was just trying to save running 375 more ft of waterline when i could just go under a beam thats being built out anyway so the lines would be hidden. I'll have to run this by my pops now but thanks a lot it's good to here comments about it and will take your advice
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Re: Water Line Question
Some codes have something to say about water lines that are exposed to freezing having to be graded back to a drain.
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Re: Water Line Question
that beam... is it anything a good cutting torch, a Sawzall, or Hole Hawg and bit won't fix?
kidding man! get a pic or something and let us know how it turns out. |
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Re: Water Line Question
no the owner doesn't want to do anything to the beam but doesn't care if we go under it. it's a beam sticking down from the ceiling 16" in a office building thats being renovated. I'll let you know how it works out
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Re: Water Line Question
I ain't a plumber, I understand it wouldn't be the preferred method, but why would it mater on a line under pressure? In radiant floor heat they use "U" bends all the time.
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Re: Water Line Question
In general it doesn't matter. In fact, you may even have to do something similar to this to meet some codes (long runs must have a way to relieve the expansion and contraction).
I bet it comes from some codes requiring water lines to drain back under certain conditions. I have heard people say it was like that under all conditions until i showed them the codes says "IF" and then defines that condition very narrowly. |
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Re: Water Line QuestionQuote:
exactly...it doesn't matter that a service line has a bend or a "u" in it....makes no difference what so ever. With pex, as Rifle said, it is needed for expansion.
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Re: Water Line Question
A lot of guys used to put a loop in the meter
pit to allow slack as the service ditch settled.
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sam74
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Re: Water Line Question
I agree that is the plus about a pressure controlled line instead of a gravity line. You can do what you want to with it vertically or horizontally as long as you install the appropriate kicker at all bends assuming the line is of some size.
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Re: Water Line Question
Thanks everyone
I went ahead and installed it just like i explained. My Brother still swore it was a code that you can't so instead of arguing i had the inspector come out to confirm it and like i thought it was no problem doing it that way. so thanks again for the help Tony anthonymurrell@gmail.com Roanoke, VA |
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