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Water Heaters And Model Codes
Is anyone aware of any general requirement in any model codes that would require a dwelling to have central hot water? (namely, a water heater of some sort)
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Re: Water Heaters And Model Codes
Central, no. Hot water, yes.
I can't site you passages however. Arkansas just went to IPC and I don't have a copy.
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Re: Water Heaters And Model CodesQuote:
Ah... here we go... IRC P2801.1 Required. Each dwelling shall have an
approved automatic water heater or other type domestic water-heating system sufficient to supply hot water to plumbing fixtures and appliances intended for bathing, washing or culinary purposes. Storage tanks shall be constructed of noncorrosive metal or be lined with noncorrosive material. This shows my question more clearly. It says you need either: -an approved automatic water heater OR -other type domestic water-heating system People heated water on the stove for centuries. It does not say that these "other" systems need be approved, does it? Last edited by mdshunk; 01-14-2007 at 01:46 PM. |
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Re: Water Heaters And Model Codes
I wounder if who ever wrote those codes knows what there even talking about.
There not very clear are they. Maybe the other is On-Demand heaters / boilers. |
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Re: Water Heaters And Model Codes
I'm nearly certain that's the type of things they had in mind, but it does not state what the 'other' systems are, or even that they need to be approved. A stove and a bucket to deliver the hot water to the fixture is an "other" system.
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Re: Water Heaters And Model CodesQuote:
I don't consider a sink a plumbing fixture, but I do think a faucet is considered a fixture. It seems to state that you need to have the ability to store this heated water, even though you can store hot water in a bucket or a pan it won't be hot for very long.
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Re: Water Heaters And Model CodesQuote:
Plumbing "fixture" has a definition in the code, and is things like the tub, toilet, sink, etc. |
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Re: Water Heaters And Model Codes
Well all I can say to that is go and build your house without a hot water system and see if you can get an inspector to give you a CO. Explain to him how you plan on making your hot water in a pan on your stove and supplying it to the fixtures. After he stops rolling on the ground from laughter
, he'll probably tell you to guess again. The code may be vague in this respect but everybody knows to expect a hot water heating system in a new modern house, even an older house.
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Re: Water Heaters And Model CodesQuote:
What I'm struggling with is an electrical requirement related to water heaters, when there seems to be (to me) no code that requires a water heater in the first place. |
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Re: Water Heaters And Model CodesQuote:
By supply, they mean via pipe of some sort, not via bucket, in my mind, that calls for an automatic heating and delivery of the water. Direct, indirect, solar, wood fire, doesn't matter, but it has to be capable of doing it on its own.
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