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Old 11-05-2017, 06:22 PM   #1
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Working on a bathroom where the plumbing and vent needed to be rerouted. Top and bottom plates had holes put in them more than 50% as well as two 2x4 studs. House is built on floor trusses so all load is on outside walls. Will stud shoes be enough structural support on this. Pic attached.
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Old 11-05-2017, 07:47 PM   #2
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House is built on floor trusses so all load is on outside walls. Will stud shoes be enough structural support on this.

Do you know that for a fact, or are you assuming that? Some floor trusses have mid point bearing.

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Yes, we took down a couple of interior walls the level below so had it all looked at.
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If that's just a partition wall, who gives a chit?!

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Sorry for the confusion, the wall in question is the exterior wall which is carrying the load.
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While I understand a stud shoe isn't supposed to take the place of total removal of material, could you add two or three more studs with shoes maybe even a 4x to make up for it?


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Or fur the whole wall out?

Make it a 2x6 wall? Lots of options there.


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No.
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You can have a solution engineered. The result is going to look like a pair of Simpson TPA 39 with a cut out so it will slide in place. The flanges are flushed to the stud when you install, so you don't wind up with a bump in your wall.

Note tpa39s aren't code approved for compressive use. Also note they are heavier gage than a stud shoe, and have way more nails. Nailing pattern is a tip off for structural repairs. If a stud shoe was tested, 4 nails might get it 200 lbs load before you start getting nail withdrawal.
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Or fur the whole wall out?

Make it a 2x6 wall? Lots of options there.


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Yup. That's my favorite.

And this, ladies and gentleman framers, is why we build a little something called a "wet wall". Even if the exterior is 2x4 construction, the bathroom can be 2x6.

I would reframe with 2x6's, and then reroute the plumbing. Personally.

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Oh, and put some blocking in there for the towel holder, butt-wipe holder, grab bars, etc.

And it might be easier to just strip that wall of drywall. Wallboard is dirt cheap, and it's a lot easier and quicker than trying to do a ton of odd-ball patches.




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Guess wrong and this may be the results.

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Just order the engineered ones and there is no guess work.
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Or fur the whole wall out?

Make it a 2x6 wall? Lots of options there.


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Yup, only way unless some engineer signs off on some band-aid. 2x6 where the plumbing is and fur out the rest. rerun the plumping with a drill, not a sawsall

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