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Is there a lot of work or things to do on the side? Like once I know more about plumbing is there work in bathroom renovations or is that not complicated enough for a plumber..
What are some side work a plumber could pick up. Please let me know. I start school on monday |
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Re: Side JobsQuote:
You start school on Monday...first lesson is today ~ don't cut the throat of those who will employ you.
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I won't cut the throat. I will just pick up some weekend work or whatever. And are you serious about the cleaning toliets and unclogging drains? |
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Re: Side JobsQuote:
Yeah, plumbers unclog drains, pull "blockages" out of toilets, etc. #1 Rule in plumbing: **** flows downhill #2 Don't chew your nails after work |
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Re: Side Jobs
Rule number one is Don't get any on you.
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Re: Side JobsQuote:
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oh, wait..these must be some of those jobs "no American wants".
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Re: Side JobsQuote:
I didn't mean it like that. I just meant as in that is pretty simple stuff. Must take like 10 minutes to do. How much do you usually charge to "unclog" a toliet? |
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Re: Side Jobs
I don't do "sidework" nor toilets.
<~~~see over here: Trade: Lic. NJ Electrical Contractor
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Learn the job before you "set the world on fire" It's good that you're going to go to school. IF you have the free time, STUDY STUDY STUDY - there is plenty of time to work. You'll find that the cream rises to the top and the slackers ...well, they are slackers, what else is there to say
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There will be plenty of time to study. I am studying right now. DIY bathroom remodeling. I guess it is the best I can find on the computer.. |
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Re: Side JobsQuote:
When I do 15" cast iron soil pipe it is quite handy to be able to figure a rolled offset on paper instead of trying to hold the two fittings where they look like they should be and measuring between the two of them.
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Please tell me more. What kind of formulas are these? |
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Re: Side JobsQuote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's STUDYING.
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Re: Side Jobs
In a simple 45 degree offset, the the advance and the set are constant, they are always equal, so you need a formula to figure the travel, which is also a constant, the advance multiplied by 1.41, minus to takeoff of the fitting on either end.
In a rolled offset using two 45's, where you are changing both elevation and plane, it gets a little more complicated, as you need a measurement for rise, spread, and setback before you can figure your set. The set formula for that is rise squared plus spread squared, once you arrive at that, the square root of that sum multiplied by 1.41 is your travel piece, minus the fitting takeoff on either end.
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How long have you been in the trade? How did you learn this stuff? Do you own your own business? |
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I learned some of it through my unions school as an apprentice, I learned a lot of it in the field when I was running new high rise work. When you are coring decks for 15" soil pipe it helps a lot if you put the core hole in the right place the first time. I own a business, but it has nothing to do with my trade, I work as a foreman, estimator, and general guy in charge for someone else in the plumbing trade.
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So you are saying owning a plumbing business has nothing to do with the trade? What kind of advice would you have for a newbie plumber looking to get ahead.. |
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You want to succeed as a plumber? Learn the math, know exactly what it takes to do anything, and make sure everything you do looks perfect. I was a foreman one year after getting my license by going that route, and I was running a crew of fifty guys doing new high rises two years after that. Keep in mind, it is always easier to do something on paper three times and get it right, than to do it once with 15" cast iron pipe and get it wrong.
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