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Old 08-18-2007, 06:35 PM   #1
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Is there a lot of work or things to do on the side? Like once I know more about plumbing is there work in bathroom renovations or is that not complicated enough for a plumber..


What are some side work a plumber could pick up. Please let me know.

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What are some side work a plumber could pick up. Please let me know.
Cleaning toilets....pulling hair from sink drains...that sort of thing.

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Cleaning toilets....pulling hair from sink drains...that sort of thing.

You start school on Monday...first lesson is today ~ don't cut the throat of those who will employ you.

I won't cut the throat. I will just pick up some weekend work or whatever.

And are you serious about the cleaning toliets and unclogging drains?
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I won't cut the throat. I will just pick up some weekend work or whatever.

And are you serious about the cleaning toliets and unclogging drains?

Yeah, plumbers unclog drains, pull "blockages" out of toilets, etc.

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Yeah, plumbers unclog drains, pull "blockages" out of toilets, etc.

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Rule number one is Don't get any on you.
See I've been out of service work so long I forgot already
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I won't cut the throat. I will just pick up some weekend work or whatever.
Real plumbers don't work weekends?


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And are you serious about the cleaning toliets and unclogging drains?
Who do you think does this work?
oh, wait..these must be some of those jobs "no American wants".
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Who do you think does this work?
oh, wait..these must be some of those jobs "no American wants".

I didn't mean it like that. I just meant as in that is pretty simple stuff. Must take like 10 minutes to do. How much do you usually charge to "unclog" a toliet?
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How much do you usually charge to "unclog" a toliet?
I don't do "sidework" nor toilets.
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Ohh ok... I got ya.. Yea I am going for the more mechanical side of construction.
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Ohh ok... I got ya.. Yea I am going for the more mechanical side of construction.

Learn the job before you "set the world on fire"

It's good that you're going to go to school. IF you have the free time, STUDY STUDY STUDY - there is plenty of time to work. You'll find that the cream rises to the top and the slackers ...well, they are slackers, what else is there to say
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Learn the job before you "set the world on fire"

It's good that you're going to go to school. IF you have the free time, STUDY STUDY STUDY - there is plenty of time to work. You'll find that the cream rises to the top and the slackers ...well, they are slackers, what else is there to say

There will be plenty of time to study. I am studying right now. DIY bathroom remodeling. I guess it is the best I can find on the computer..
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There will be plenty of time to study. I am studying right now. DIY bathroom remodeling. I guess it is the best I can find on the computer..
You'd be better off working on math and formulas commonly used in the plumbing trade, like capacity of a tank, capacity of a cylinder, figuring offsets, etc.

When I do 15" cast iron soil pipe it is quite handy to be able to figure a rolled offset on paper instead of trying to hold the two fittings where they look like they should be and measuring between the two of them.
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You'd be better off working on math and formulas commonly used in the plumbing trade, like capacity of a tank, capacity of a cylinder, figuring offsets, etc.

When I do 15" cast iron soil pipe it is quite handy to be able to figure a rolled offset on paper instead of trying to hold the two fittings where they look like they should be and measuring between the two of them.

Please tell me more. What kind of formulas are these?
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You'd be better off working on math and formulas commonly used in the plumbing trade, like capacity of a tank, capacity of a cylinder, figuring offsets, etc.

When I do 15" cast iron soil pipe it is quite handy to be able to figure a rolled offset on paper instead of trying to hold the two fittings where they look like they should be and measuring between the two of them.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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In a simple 45 degree offset, the the advance and the set are constant, they are always equal, so you need a formula to figure the travel, which is also a constant, the advance multiplied by 1.41, minus to takeoff of the fitting on either end.

In a rolled offset using two 45's, where you are changing both elevation and plane, it gets a little more complicated, as you need a measurement for rise, spread, and setback before you can figure your set. The set formula for that is rise squared plus spread squared, once you arrive at that, the square root of that sum multiplied by 1.41 is your travel piece, minus the fitting takeoff on either end.
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In a simple 45 degree offset, the the advance and the set are constant, they are always equal, so you need a formula to figure the travel, which is also a constant, the advance multiplied by 1.41, minus to takeoff of the fitting on either end.

In a rolled offset using two 45's, where you are changing both elevation and plane, it gets a little more complicated, as you need a measurement for rise, spread, and setback before you can figure your set. The set formula for that is rise squared plus spread squared, once you arrive at that, the square root of that sum multiplied by 1.41 is your travel piece, minus the fitting takeoff on either end.

How long have you been in the trade? How did you learn this stuff? Do you own your own business?
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How long have you been in the trade? How did you learn this stuff? Do you own your own business?
18 years.

I learned some of it through my unions school as an apprentice, I learned a lot of it in the field when I was running new high rise work. When you are coring decks for 15" soil pipe it helps a lot if you put the core hole in the right place the first time.

I own a business, but it has nothing to do with my trade, I work as a foreman, estimator, and general guy in charge for someone else in the plumbing trade.
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I learned some of it through my unions school as an apprentice, I learned a lot of it in the field when I was running new high rise work. When you are coring decks for 15" soil pipe it helps a lot if you put the core hole in the right place the first time.

I own a business, but it has nothing to do with my trade, I work as a foreman, estimator, and general guy in charge for someone else in the plumbing trade.

So you are saying owning a plumbing business has nothing to do with the trade?

What kind of advice would you have for a newbie plumber looking to get ahead..
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So you are saying owning a plumbing business has nothing to do with the trade?

What kind of advice would you have for a newbie plumber looking to get ahead..
No, my business is not a plumbing business, I design and build stock car chassis as a side business, aside from working as a plumber full time.

You want to succeed as a plumber? Learn the math, know exactly what it takes to do anything, and make sure everything you do looks perfect. I was a foreman one year after getting my license by going that route, and I was running a crew of fifty guys doing new high rises two years after that. Keep in mind, it is always easier to do something on paper three times and get it right, than to do it once with 15" cast iron pipe and get it wrong.
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