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10-31-2009, 09:22 AM
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Placing toilet
I did a job last week and it included a granite tile (12 x 12) floor...I will be having the toilet placed Tuesday....what, if anything, should be placed between the toilet and the floor. I have seen plumbers puty on regular ceramic tiles, but I wouldn't want to have the oils bleed into the granite tiles.
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10-31-2009, 09:30 AM
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I have seen the putty on floors before and IMHO it's done if whomever set the toilet isn't sure of the wax ring seal (read hack).
Looks like crap and I would be worried about oil bleed as well.
I would think if the floor is solid and flat it is unnecessary. If the floor isn't flat the toilet shouldn't be set until it is.
Bring on the plumbers!
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10-31-2009, 09:32 AM
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I have seen plumbers use plaster,caulk and putty.
My preference has always been the same grout used for the floor.
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10-31-2009, 09:33 AM
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10-31-2009, 10:46 AM
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They make putty that is safe for use on marble, granite, and other stone surfaces.
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10-31-2009, 11:16 AM
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Not being a plumber, why would the toilet need to be puttied, grouted, caulked or otherwise sealed to the floor beyond the wax ring?
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10-31-2009, 11:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bert0168
Not being a plumber, why would the toilet need to be puttied, grouted, caulked or otherwise sealed to the floor beyond the wax ring?
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I don't use wax rings.
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10-31-2009, 11:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bert0168
Not being a plumber, why would the toilet need to be puttied, grouted, caulked or otherwise sealed to the floor beyond the wax ring?
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The wax ring seals the "plumbing".
The other methods help, in addition to the jonnie bolts, fasten the bowl to the floor.
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10-31-2009, 01:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bert0168
Not being a plumber, why would the toilet need to be puttied, grouted, caulked or otherwise sealed to the floor beyond the wax ring?
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Keeps to pee and cleaning chemicals out.
I run blue low tack tape around the base of the bowl and floor. Then poly-seam seal (caulk), press it in deep with finger, wipe off excess with a damp sponge, remove tape.
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10-31-2009, 01:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skyhook
Keeps to pee and cleaning chemicals out.
I run blue low tack tape around the base of the bowl and floor. Then poly-seam seal (caulk), press it in deep with finger, wipe off excess with a damp sponge, remove tape.
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OK. Makes sense to me. I still don't like the looks of ones I've seen.
But maybe I haven't seen one done properly yet. (or is that the point..................  )
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10-31-2009, 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bert0168
OK. Makes sense to me. I still don't like the looks of ones I've seen.
But maybe I haven't seen one done properly yet. (or is that the point..................  )
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The bowl might not always sit flat on the floor. In that case, sanded grout might be a solution. Everybody has seen toilets and urinals with a 1/2" of moldy caulking. Any gaps of more than 1/8" are better when filled with grout first, than a thin layer of silicone or good grade caulking to keep it in place.
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