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Old 10-31-2009, 10:22 AM   #1
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I did a job last week and it included a granite tile (12 x 12) floor...I will be having the toilet placed Tuesday....what, if anything, should be placed between the toilet and the floor. I have seen plumbers puty on regular ceramic tiles, but I wouldn't want to have the oils bleed into the granite tiles.

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Old 10-31-2009, 10:30 AM   #2
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I have seen the putty on floors before and IMHO it's done if whomever set the toilet isn't sure of the wax ring seal (read hack).

Looks like crap and I would be worried about oil bleed as well.

I would think if the floor is solid and flat it is unnecessary. If the floor isn't flat the toilet shouldn't be set until it is.

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I have seen plumbers use plaster,caulk and putty.
My preference has always been the same grout used for the floor.
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They make putty that is safe for use on marble, granite, and other stone surfaces.
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Not being a plumber, why would the toilet need to be puttied, grouted, caulked or otherwise sealed to the floor beyond the wax ring?
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Not being a plumber, why would the toilet need to be puttied, grouted, caulked or otherwise sealed to the floor beyond the wax ring?
I don't use wax rings.
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Not being a plumber, why would the toilet need to be puttied, grouted, caulked or otherwise sealed to the floor beyond the wax ring?
The wax ring seals the "plumbing".
The other methods help, in addition to the jonnie bolts, fasten the bowl to the floor.
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Not being a plumber, why would the toilet need to be puttied, grouted, caulked or otherwise sealed to the floor beyond the wax ring?
Keeps to pee and cleaning chemicals out.
I run blue low tack tape around the base of the bowl and floor. Then poly-seam seal (caulk), press it in deep with finger, wipe off excess with a damp sponge, remove tape.
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Keeps to pee and cleaning chemicals out.
I run blue low tack tape around the base of the bowl and floor. Then poly-seam seal (caulk), press it in deep with finger, wipe off excess with a damp sponge, remove tape.
OK. Makes sense to me. I still don't like the looks of ones I've seen.

But maybe I haven't seen one done properly yet. (or is that the point..................)
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OK. Makes sense to me. I still don't like the looks of ones I've seen.

But maybe I haven't seen one done properly yet. (or is that the point..................)
The bowl might not always sit flat on the floor. In that case, sanded grout might be a solution. Everybody has seen toilets and urinals with a 1/2" of moldy caulking. Any gaps of more than 1/8" are better when filled with grout first, than a thin layer of silicone or good grade caulking to keep it in place.
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Keeps to pee and cleaning chemicals out.
I run blue low tack tape around the base of the bowl and floor. Then poly-seam seal (caulk), press it in deep with finger, wipe off excess with a damp sponge, remove tape.

Why use tape if you are using a water based sealant? The sealing of the bowl beyond the wax ring also helps with the potential of methane gases escaping through areas where water will not.
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Why use tape if you are using a water based sealant?
Polyseamseal is not water based.. good stuff though!
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Polyseamseal is not water based.. good stuff though!

You through me off when you said you cleaned up afterwords with a damp sponge. I ASSumed it was waterbased.
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i have always used clear silicon with good results. I can count on my hands the times i have had a perfectly flat pan which didnt need it.
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i have always used clear silicon with good results. I can count on my hands the times i have had a perfectly flat pan which didnt need it.

Required here by code, to seal bowl of toilet to floor.
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Why use tape if you are using a water based sealant? .
Saves on clean up. Too much water and wiping will dilute the caulking or remove it altogether.
Keep the tape tight to the bowl and floor. Faster, easier and happier customers.
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Saves on clean up. Too much water and wiping will dilute the caulking or remove it altogether.
Keep the tape tight to the bowl and floor. Faster, easier and happier customers.

Doesn't make since to me, but hey, to each his own. Rinse out the sponge thoroughly and walla. But, I am just a plumber.
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Doesn't make since to me, but hey, to each his own. Rinse out the sponge thoroughly and walla. But, I am just a plumber.
What RSP just said.
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Doesn't make since to me, but hey, to each his own. Rinse out the sponge thoroughly and walla. But, I am just a plumber.
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