Pex Vs Copper: Meter To House

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-16-2008, 06:17 AM   #41
Plumbing is a Profession
 
nhmaster3015's Avatar
 
Trade: Plumbing & HVAC
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: S. Maine
Posts: 157

Re: Pex Vs Copper: Meter To House


Uponor-wirsbo has never paid a law suit ever due to product liability. Other Pex companies have, Uponor has not.

We have been burrying poleyethylene (the black well pipe) for residential well systems for how long now fellas? Along with hanging water pumps a couple hundred feet off the stuff. How many pipe failures are you guys running across?

Actual pex pipe failures are pretty rare and most times due to improper installation or some bonehead did not shield it from UV light. Copper pin holeing is a very very common thing and when put in contact with wet earth becomes even more of a problem. Plastic is inert, chemically and electrically.

nhmaster3015 is offline  
Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Old 09-16-2008, 06:39 AM   #42
DRIFTWOOD
 
Driftwood's Avatar
 
Trade: GEN CONTR.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 803

Re: Pex Vs Copper: Meter To House


On one of My family members projects in Wash. St.there is a pex problem!
radiant , Pex pin holes in slab! Finally, Uponor admitted they have a problem
with a particular run! They also said "they won't pay!
Driftwood is offline  
Old 09-16-2008, 08:19 AM   #43
Proud Plumber
 
Proud Plumber's Avatar
 
Trade: Plumbing/Building Contractor
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southwest Florida
Posts: 144

Re: Pex Vs Copper: Meter To House


I am told that if you store Pex pipe directly in the sun for a period of time it can break the product down and cause future failures. Here where I live copper is being banned from residential use. Almost everything has gone cpvc or pex. With the exception of commercial uses hospitals etc...
__________________
Bill

"I'd rather die while I'm living then live while I'm dead".... Jimmy Buffett
Proud Plumber is offline  
Old 09-16-2008, 08:47 AM   #44
Pro
 
Dan_Watson's Avatar
 
Trade: Registered Home Improvement Contractor
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 1,516

Re: Pex Vs Copper: Meter To House


So back to the point I was getting to... It would seem, just from the information given on here, that pex would be better suited for long runs, such as the OP's situation, as long as there are no fittings from the street to the house, which given the attributes of pex is possible.
Dan_Watson is online now  
Old 09-16-2008, 09:10 AM   #45
Pro Plumber
 
Ron The Plumber's Avatar
 
Trade: Plumber
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,779

Re: Pex Vs Copper: Meter To House


Quote:
Originally Posted by nhmaster3015 View Post
Uponor-wirsbo has never paid a law suit ever due to product liability. Other Pex companies have, Uponor has not.

We have been burrying poleyethylene (the black well pipe) for residential well systems for how long now fellas? Along with hanging water pumps a couple hundred feet off the stuff. How many pipe failures are you guys running across?

Actual pex pipe failures are pretty rare and most times due to improper installation or some bonehead did not shield it from UV light. Copper pin holeing is a very very common thing and when put in contact with wet earth becomes even more of a problem. Plastic is inert, chemically and electrically.
Same here, it is the way of the future, it will be around for along time, go with the flow, it is some great stuff.
Ron The Plumber is offline  
Old 09-16-2008, 03:20 PM   #46
Pro
 
22rifle's Avatar
 
Trade: Plumbing & HVAC, I specialize in Hydronic Heating and more specifically in Radiant Floor Heating
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 827

Re: Pex Vs Copper: Meter To House


Quote:
Originally Posted by Driftwood View Post
On one of My family members projects in Wash. St.there is a pex problem!
radiant , Pex pin holes in slab! Finally, Uponor admitted they have a problem
with a particular run! They also said "they won't pay!
Can you please provide documentation for your claims?
22rifle is offline  
Old 09-16-2008, 06:21 PM   #47
Proud Plumber
 
Proud Plumber's Avatar
 
Trade: Plumbing/Building Contractor
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southwest Florida
Posts: 144

Re: Pex Vs Copper: Meter To House


The best was the day I ran a pex service line and the next morning the electrician put a ground clamp on it and ran ground wire to it. I am not an electrician by any means, all I know is how to run an extension cord. It just seemed a little out of place, thats all...... LOL too bad I did not have my dig camera with me.
__________________
Bill

"I'd rather die while I'm living then live while I'm dead".... Jimmy Buffett
Proud Plumber is offline  
Old 09-16-2008, 06:37 PM   #48
Pro
 
Grumpyplumber's Avatar
 
Trade: Plumber
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,165

Re: Pex Vs Copper: Meter To House


Quote:
Originally Posted by Proud Plumber View Post
The best was the day I ran a pex service line and the next morning the electrician put a ground clamp on it and ran ground wire to it. I am not an electrician by any means, all I know is how to run an extension cord. It just seemed a little out of place, thats all...... LOL too bad I did not have my dig camera with me.
Grumpyplumber is offline  
Old 09-16-2008, 10:54 PM   #49
DRIFTWOOD
 
Driftwood's Avatar
 
Trade: GEN CONTR.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 803

Re: Pex Vs Copper: Meter To House


Quote:
Originally Posted by 22rifle View Post
Can you please provide documentation for your claims?
Yes I can! Will I ? No! This is a public forum,I'm guessing it will end up in court,
So this would not be wise to give spec.Info here, My Son in law was buying around 12,000 ft. of pex a month. I will tell You this. The Wall st. journal did
an article on his Geo Buss. last month. He has been a guest speaker at Geo conferences. He has a booming buss. He still Buys Wirsbo,It was one run that
failed.He got into this many years ago!

22.I sent You a P.M.

Last edited by Driftwood; 09-16-2008 at 11:11 PM.
Driftwood is offline  
Old 09-17-2008, 09:13 AM   #50
Pro
 
22rifle's Avatar
 
Trade: Plumbing & HVAC, I specialize in Hydronic Heating and more specifically in Radiant Floor Heating
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 827

Re: Pex Vs Copper: Meter To House


Quote:
Originally Posted by Driftwood View Post
Yes I can! Will I ? No! This is a public forum,I'm guessing it will end up in court,
So this would not be wise to give spec.Info here, My Son in law was buying around 12,000 ft. of pex a month. I will tell You this. The Wall st. journal did
an article on his Geo Buss. last month. He has been a guest speaker at Geo conferences. He has a booming buss. He still Buys Wirsbo,It was one run that
failed.He got into this many years ago!



22.I sent You a P.M.

I didn't get any PM. I ain't busting on you. I really do want to know whole story.
22rifle is offline  
Old 09-17-2008, 10:40 PM   #51
DRIFTWOOD
 
Driftwood's Avatar
 
Trade: GEN CONTR.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 803

Re: Pex Vs Copper: Meter To House


22 Just sent You another PM ,DRIFT
Driftwood is offline  
Old 09-17-2008, 10:47 PM   #52
DRIFTWOOD
 
Driftwood's Avatar
 
Trade: GEN CONTR.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 803
Thumbs up

Re: Pex Vs Copper: Meter To House


[QUOTE=nhmaster3015;496581]Uponor-wirsbo has never paid a law suit ever due to product liability. Other Pex companies have, Uponor has not.

They have done the right thing when their product failed. Paid for all the associated cost to,put the family up, elsewhere, Jack Hammered It all up, Make it ALL right! They are a stand up Co. I know of one failure! They still use their product daily! Drift.
Driftwood is offline  


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Spraying house while wife is pregnant plumberman Pest Control 20 12-17-2010 09:22 PM
Does this house have any potential? ruskent General Discussion 28 05-28-2008 07:02 PM
Can this Real Estate is Take Off ? oldfrt General Discussion 22 03-15-2008 04:18 PM
Trying to keep the HO house neat during construction ultimatetouch General Discussion 13 03-09-2007 08:00 AM
My old house, I wanna cry Toothpick Off Topic (Non Trade) 1 03-07-2007 09:11 PM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

Privacy Badge
I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
ContractorTalk.com is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At ContractorTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?