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Old 12-14-2017, 12:13 AM   #1
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"Honing" Sound After Toilet Flushes


That's the only way I can describe it. After flushing and the tank starts to refill, there is this sound that is like someone blowing on Viking deer horn. Recently in my condo unit, I've been hearing the same sounds from other units when flushing their toilets.

I know it sounds freaky, but that's what I'm hearing. Am I just imagining that sound when other units nearby flush their toilets and I hear a Viking horn sound too? Omg...I may be just imagining that, but I don't think so.

What the hell is causing that sound? Pressure fluctuations? My toilet only???

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Old 12-14-2017, 04:44 AM   #2
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Check that the water valve to the toilet is open fully.

Or it's the fill valve in the tank (thing on the left side). Maybe a replacement will help. They're pretty much interchangeable, so the new one may not look anything like what's in there currently.

Or try clearing debris, if the fill valve looks like this. The cap is removed when you hold the float lever "up" as you twist a little bit.
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I think I know the answer, but I dasn't dare comment because I'm not a painter.
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Why not call a licensed plumber?
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A resonance is being set up between the fill valve and some other part of the plumbing.
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I think I know the answer, but I dasn't dare comment because I'm not a painter.
Well, at least I'm not asking whether to blow my nose with my right hand or my left. "I'm a plumber...lead me step by step on how to paint my house, if you please."

Ya, I don't wander far from my trade, but when I do, I think I ask questions that are worthy of this forum and not in the DIY forum section, which other trades feel free to do with regards to the painting forum.

"Hi, I'm Joe plumber, I've never picked up a paint brush. I thought I'd drop by the painting forum and ask how to paint my house...step by step". "Surely I'll get every painting contractor here to tell me how."

Was I acting like that? No. Gimme a break. Gimme a Kit-Kat bar.

hdavis (sound resonance, good reply)...its weird, in that, as of recently, I'm hearing this "honing" sound coming from other condo tenent's toilets when they flush. At least I swear, I can here that sound. So...does the problem lie with each of our toilets (to correct it)?

A back story that may or may not be the cause: I told our HOA that our water pressure was too high. I took a meter reading with a PSI gauge and it read 125PSI (85 PSI max by code). I photographed that gauge pic and sent it to both our HOA president and to our condo association's property manager. No reply. Then a week later, a pipe behind my toilet sprouted a pin hole leak. It didn't flood my bathroom because the leak sprayed out towards the drywall that is our hallway. Our HOA then had to pay to cut out all the wet drywall and replace it, texture and paint it. it took our HOA 5 months to finally reduce our shared pipes water pressure down from 125PSI (lol, after paying for all that work, they let 5 months go by!). Typical HOA lunacy.

I'm thinking we all had our toilets working with the high 125PSI (stupid HOA) and now that the water pressure has finally been reduced to all, it may mean each of our toilets needs adjusting?

If so, I wasn't asking plumbers here how to adjust my toilet. I was asking about the cause. I thought it a worthy question outside my profession.

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Well, at least I'm not asking whether to blow my nose with my right hand or my left. "I'm a plumber...lead me step by step on how to paint my house."

Ya, I don't wander far from my trade, but when I do, I think I ask questions that are worthy of this forum and not in the DIY forum section, which other trades feel free to do with regards to the painting forum.

"Hi, I'm Joe plumber, I've never picked up a paint brush. I thought I'd drop by the painting forum and ask how to paint my house...step by step". "Surely I'll get every painting contractor here to tell me how."

Was I acting like that? No. Gimme a break. Gimme a Kit-Kat bar.
Little catfight in the painting forum??




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Maybe try closing down the shutoff valve some. If It's already part closed, go both ways.

If the units are plumbed identical, they should all react similarly. I'm guessing this is triggered by turbulent flow at the fill valve, but the feedback would be from reduction in pipe size, a 90 degree elbow, ...
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Maybe try closing down the shutoff valve some. If It's already part closed, go both ways.

If the units are plumbed identical, they should all react similarly. I'm guessing this is triggered by turbulent flow at the fill valve, but the feedback would be from reduction in pipe size, a 90 degree elbow, ...

Will try that. thanks. I can imagine why a partially closed shut off valve might cause this strange honing sound. Like I said, it's weird that I'm hearing other condo units toilets making the same honing sound.

Anyways, this "honing" sound (like a viking blowing on a sheeps horn) has got me perplexed for the moment. I can possibly see why it might be happening locally with me, but recently, I'm hearing the honing sounds from other units toilets when their toilet tank is filling up. This all may just die out on its own, who knows? Not a huge deal.

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I'm still trying to get past the terminology. I equate "honing" with knife sharpening, and while I'm sure Vikings did that, I doubt it sounded like blowing a horn.

You can hear the neighbors' toilets flushing? Must be one of those condos with Japanese paper walls.

All toilets make noise as they refill the tank. Might help if you recorded the sound so we can see how atypical it is. Easiest way to post that here would probably be a Youtube video.
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No easy answers I guess.

But I am looking forward to the video.
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I'm still trying to get past the terminology. I equate "honing" with knife sharpening, and while I'm sure Vikings did that, I doubt it sounded like blowing a horn.

You can hear the neighbors' toilets flushing? Must be one of those condos with Japanese paper walls.

All toilets make noise as they refill the tank. Might help if you recorded the sound so we can see how atypical it is. Easiest way to post that here would probably be a Youtube video.



or maybe this is coming from the neighbor's toilets:

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I'm still trying to get past the terminology.
"Honing." Bad use of language on my part, describing a sound. My bad.

An elk horn being blown. There, that's better, maybe.

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If a toilet shrieks as the tank refills, the problem is usually a faulty washer or washers in the ballcock assembly, the rod and floating ball that rises as the tank fills.

Lift off the top of the tank and remove the two pins or set screws that anchor the ballcock. Pull up the assembly, lifting the plunger out of the tube. Obtain replacement washers for all that are on the plunger; usually, there are at least two. But before installing them, sand or scrape off mineral deposits.

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If a toilet shrieks as the tank refills, the problem is usually a faulty washer or washers in the ballcock assembly, the rod and floating ball that rises as the tank fills.

Lift off the top of the tank and remove the two pins or set screws that anchor the ballcock. Pull up the assembly, lifting the plunger out of the tube. Obtain replacement washers for all that are on the plunger; usually, there are at least two. But before installing them, sand or scrape off mineral deposits.

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/11/24/ny...sy-valves.html
I think they should recommend turning off the water to the fill valve first....

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"Honing." Bad use of language on my part, describing a sound. My bad.

An elk horn being blown. There, that's better, maybe.
That would be bugling. That's worse than any honing sound I envisioned.
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What did we finally determine the cause for a sound like someone is blowing an deer horn when the toilet is being refilled?

The only sound description I could come up at the time was a "honing sound."

Sorry for my poor description of the sound. Deer horn being sounded.

Nonetheless...this post is somewhat related to our HAO allowing the water pressure to get to 125 PSI).

85 PSI is the max for building codes. One toilet's inards are pretty much trashed and need a rebuild due to excessive water pressure. They leak at the core, and can't be corrected with the usual screw adjustments.

I blame our HOA letting the water pressure getting to 125PSI and causing some major copper pipe spritz leaks. Those spritz leaks would probably not have happened if our entire condo water pressure PSI less than 125 PSI. That's 40 PSI over the max allowed by building codes.

Update, lol. 5 months later our condos water pressure PSI is where it should be, lol, well under 125 PSI!

As a condo owner here, I only had to wait a mere 5 months before the HOA got off it's collective butt and reduced the high 125 PSI water pressure to 70 PSI. (I sent the HOA a pic of a water gauge hooked up showing 125 PSI.

Additionally, as a side note, multiple toilets inards need replacing, due to the 125 PSI water pressure fiasco.

PPS. I'm still hearing this wierd "honing" sound on flushes. Heh, I mean Deer horn sound. Not just from my units toilet.

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