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Old 02-01-2007, 12:21 PM   #1
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Garbage Disposal Backup


I had a tech install a garbage disposal the other day. Everything went fine. 2 days later customer is calling to tell us the disposal is backing up.

We go out to snake the drain - 20' and all is clear. Disposal still backsup and only when you turn it on. So we go and return it and get a replacement. Same thing happens.

Not sure what is going on - I've only seen this happen one other time and we referred them to a plumber.

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Old 02-01-2007, 02:23 PM   #2
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How are the pipes under the sink, how is all plumbed together?

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New trap. Dishwasher connects into disposal direct and trap exits to drain pipe.
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Is the water backing up in both compartments or just the disposer side?
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Double bowl sink? Does disposal tie to a tee under sink before trap? If so is this tee a baffled tee?

Lots of questions asked to get to the problem at hand.
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single sink, someone else said it could be the power of the disposal, but that doesn't jive.

Prior garbage disposal work fine - just noisy and customer wanted a quieter one.

Dishwasher also drains fine. Water drains when disposal is off. The backup only happens when the disposal is running.
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I hate to ask, but did you remove the DW knock out?
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OK one more question, what is the horse power, higher horse power disposals have a splash guard insert that goes into the top, running a higher hp disposal without will cause water to expel out of it, making it appear to be backing up.
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20 feet may not have been far enough. Go farther.
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Okay to answer all the questions posed (been a busy day today!).

Yes - Dishwasher knockout is open - the dishwasher is not backing up - it is the drainage exiting from disposal. See my note about dishwasher draining properly through the disposal.

Not sure what the hp is on the disposal - will check on splash guard and hp.

Snake 20 feet or more? May be a problem, but if water drains without the disposal running then I eliminate that possibility, not to mention other sinks in the house off the same main drain are fine.

The other thing I was thinking was something with the venting - maybe putting an admittance valve under the sink - maybe the water isn't able to drain because the disposal is creating an unnecessary vacuum???
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How soon does it back up , right away ? Have you checked the arm coming out of the disposal into the tee , Do you have a seprate vent for the disposal , which is required now at least here anyways ?





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Sounds like a venting problem, but I would not install an air admitance valve. Did this installation have a disposer before? How old is the house? Lead drains to kitchen sink? Is the sink plumbed with a 1/4 bend, then an 1/8 bend down to a wye at the vent? Have you checked the vent on the roof?

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