F#@%ing Shut Off Valves

Philly Dude

Every ****ing time I replace a faucet or toilet the shut off valves for the supply lines either break or don't work to begin with. I almost feel like why even bother with ****ing shut off valves, just shut off the main whenever you replace something. The valves are either the cheap ass plastic valves that never shut all the way off, or they are metal globe valves that are so ****ing corroded that if you touch them they leak.

Bill

Welcome to my world!!

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threaderman

You need to use a better valve.Have you tried the Brass craft 1/4 turns.

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Bill

Threaderman, I have used some in the past. I cant remember which I use now, but they are all 1/4 turns or nothing at all.

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threaderman

Does that mean you like them or is that the only style available to you?

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Bill

Like them?
Love them! Its all I use now.
We have all styles available here. I just will not use the gate valve type no more

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Philly Dude

I don't put the valves in. They are there already when I come to do service work or remodels.

Bill

Never trust them dude! I mean never! I always check for where the main cut off is and turn the water off there when dealing with remodels. Not only the valves malfunctioning, but it is too easy to hit a line with a sawzall blade!

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threaderman

I understand buddy.Can you say up sell.I love dealing with the old crap,it's a challenge and usually more $ to repair.If you're bidding work,include pita factor in your bid.

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Philly Dude

I don't put the valves in. They are there already when I come to do service work or remodels.

SLSTech

That's one reason why I generally spec out new shutoffs for Kitchen & Bath remodels - why wait, you know their going to go

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Houston's

That is why i keep like 15 valves in my trailer.

Celtic

I guess my neighbor - not a plumber - had it with the shut-offs being a PITA on his house.
His "solution": He put in shower faucets to kill his entire bathroom

He probably did this when he bought the house and remodeled the bath the first time ~ about 20 yrs ago. Just recently, he "remodeled" again. To save a nickel, he did not put in new valves at the actual shower...just went ahead and CBU'ed, tiled, etc.
Now he is trying to find some plastic valve stems or washers for the shower...

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Terrorron

...them out for "quarter turn" (ball) valves...

This is specified in my initial "scope of work/ estimate" as part of the "demolition" process.
I have had (in the "learning years") the misfortune of having an R-19 blow it's guts out in my hand (bonnet nut, stem, handle, packing...you get the picture)... I kept that valve as a "sales tool"...nobody complains about the upcharge to install a half a dozen ball valves, when you're presenting a $10,000+ bathroom reno to them.

Any customer that would balk at this kind of thing, is not the kind of customer I'd want to be working for anyways!!!

Cheers, Ron

PA woodbutcher

Agreed. I replace all valves with 1/4 turns in all kitchens and baths. If done in copper I usually also add a main valve.

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WarnerConstInc.

Any time in changing a fixture, just change the valves, your allready under there change em and charge for it.
The old water was flowing great then it just stopped routine, now you have to go back and change the valve.

rbsremodeling

Maybe this will help we charge $220.00 bucks to remove and replace a shutoff valve.

When I get to the house I try to find as many as I can.

Think of it like a game.

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threaderman

A game only rich stupid people can afford to play,crap.

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rbsremodeling

Lol I take it you don't charge the same

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