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3Kings Plumbing

Today, I over heard a guy at the supply shop talking about hooking to the water heater with pex piping. I always ran about 18" of copper from the water heater before I hooked up copper. But Joe said I can hook it up directly. How do you guys feel or know about this. ( I use Zurn and Vangaurd piping with Black round ring if this matters)

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plumb.bob.down

It's permissible in Kentucky, although I like CPVC better than copper or pex. Copper condensates fairly easily and I just don't like the idea of crimping for the pex.

Glue joints are better imo

ChrWright

Glue joints are better??????

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threaderman

No plastic allowed in the first 18" here.

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rex

same here...i belive it even says that in the zurn specs

Putty Truck

It never came up because we use the 18" water heater connectors.

All Clear Sewer

same here

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3Kings Plumbing

I knew I was doing it right. I just kinda second guess myself, But still wondering why couldn't just hook directly??? does the copper cool down the hot water??? I went to a house to day to switch out a sump pump and I noticed it has pex ran straight to water heater and so was the pop off. It even had dielectric unions with pex adapters sweated in it.


ChrWright,

If you don't mind if I ask, Who does your plumbing for you?

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KillerToiletSpider

Pex is not approved here, you can't use it. A few of the high rises I work in don't allow copper for that matter, all water and waste and vent is done in galvanized.

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threaderman

Nice Ridgid post about me. I'm not going behind anyones back there,I told them my feelings when I left,glad you all had some laughs though.

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smellslike$tome

Yikes! You gotta be joking about the galvanized right! Actually now that I think about it that must be the plumbing unions influence on the code official . In a way maybe it is smart because it sure will insure plumbing job security for 25 to 50 years out.

I installed a pot filler for my wife about 6 months ago. Now a pot filler is not something you necessarily use multiple times per day or even once a day, in some homes it might not get used once a week or maybe even ever. However I'd say we might use ours once or twice a week. The water heater is located on the other side of the wall so it works great. When I installed it I did not have the proper sized brass nipple so I used a galvanized nipple instead. Within 2 weeks of the install we started getting a pot full of yellow water which would have to be dumped out before you could get "clear" water. That was the only galvanized component in my entire water distribution system. After about 2 weeks of that I couldn't stand it anymore so I took it apart swapped the nipple for a brass one and no more yellow water. The point is that galvanized begins to decay the moment water hits it. Galvanized drains are even better!

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KillerToiletSpider

It is no joke, and it has nothing to do with code and everything to do with the engineer that the building uses, When you have a 70 story building with all galvanized risers, you can get into a situation where you are asking for dialectric issues when you introduce copper to it, and this is their way of eliminating that risk, even though we have shown them several superior options. We are the house plumbers for a 27 story building that has all galvanized risers that are 90 years old, and they have never had a failure on the risers, but almost all of the branches have been replaced with copper because of corrosion problems.

I have done six inch galvanized risers in the past, spinning six inch fittings is a workout every apprentice should experience.

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smellslike$tome

You must eat a lot of spinach Killer !

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KillerToiletSpider

Six foot chain tongs are a great tool.

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smellslike$tome

Add a cheater bar and you could spin the whole building.

It's funny but I'm beginning to get this image of you which I'm sure is completely wrong but you must be one wiry son of a gun.

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KillerToiletSpider

My uncle breeds horses, I always volunteer to break them when the time comes, I won't let an 800 pound beast think it is better or stronger than I am.

Plumbing is all about confidence, I'll plumb a bathroom in the middle of the Mojave desert if your willing to pay for it, if you are afraid to do the job you already lost.

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Putty Truck

Gal is still the strongest pipe...it's expensive and labor intensive, though.

While you are the skinny fruck, I'm the one with the 6'0, 250 lb. barrell frame. My biceps are a modest 18", but my back and stomach muscles are thick and layered. That's from the first few decades of digging ditches and threading pipe.

I move slow, but deliberate as all git.

smellslike$tome

Don't know why I'm getting all these images of people tonight, which again I'm sure are completely wrong but, Putty I've got you with a pony tail, lots of facial hair, multiple tatoos, and maybe a hawg in there somewhere. Tell me I'm wrong .

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Putty Truck

Very, very close. What do you look like, bro?

smellslike$tome

6'/230lbs, short brown hair, goatee because it's the only decent facial hair I can grow and I've got to have something to at least hide some of the ugly, no tats, no tobacco(since 1987), maybe a 12 pack of beer per year, glasses, average as the day is long, but my wife and kids love me and I really couldn't dare ask for a better life.

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