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Old 07-16-2007, 11:45 PM   #1
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Hope all are enjoying the summer. Looking for some thoughts on Copper piping Type M.

I tried a new plumber on a home I am building in CT and he wanted to use copper, as I sensed he did not use PEX. The plumber had 30 years in the trade and I would say did a good, neat job.

I was interviewing a new electrician who asked me what type of copper I used and he made a face when I said M. The electrician went on to say M will last maybe 10 years as the water will eat thru the pipe over time. The home is on city water. Do I need to be concerned?

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Old 07-17-2007, 12:06 AM   #2
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Typically it's type L. Old timers don't like Pex, if it's different they don't wanna know. Pex is usually less expensive for a new build.

I see alot of M underground for slab homes. However the city water isn't that hard on pipes around here. As far as being concerned....if it will pass code you shouldn't be concerned. If M would only last 10 years in your area, why bother using copper? You can get 10 years out of galvi.
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:04 AM   #3
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I may contact the town inspector and ask him if the town has an issue with M copper.

I quess the main question I am asking the board is did the comment made about M copper lasting 10 years sound right ? I'm thinking copper in the Pyramids lasting thousands of years and only 10 years on M copper. I have seen posts here where pin hole leaks are reported after 25-30 years and even that sounds bad. Who would want to open walls and get mold issues even in 80 years.
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I may contact the town inspector and ask him if the town has an issue with M copper.

I quess the main question I am asking the board is did the comment made about M copper lasting 10 years sound right ? I'm thinking copper in the Pyramids lasting thousands of years and only 10 years on M copper. I have seen posts here where pin hole leaks are reported after 25-30 years and even that sounds bad. Who would want to open walls and get mold issues even in 80 years.
I have done remodels that had M copper installed in the early 1960's and the integrity of the pipe was still fine. If your area does not have overly harsh water, M copper should be fine.
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Here in NJ "M" is not allowed for potable water lines. "M" is used for heating only.
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Most of the time, early failures in copper are due to improper tie-ins to other materials or not reaming cut pipes before sweating them to fittings...
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Where I am, type "M" is expressely prohibited on potable.
Type "L" or better.
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