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Code Question
How do you figure out the hot water demand for lets say 3 bed, 2 full bath house?
And where in the code book says the water heater has to deliver enough hot water for the total demand of the house hold? I am not a plumber nor plan to be I just want it for argument purposes haha. |
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Re: Code Question
Hot water- 2- showers @ 2.5 GPM=5, 2- lavatories @ 2.5 GPM=5, 1- kitchen sink @2.5 GPM= 1.25, I split the demand in half as we usually mix out water 50% hot & cold. Now this is where we do a bit of assuming, assuming each shower is 20 minutes long 20x2.5= 50 GPH, hand washing is 5 minutes 5x2.5=12.5, dish washing 15 minutes 15x1.25=18.75 GPH. Total for all is 81.25 GPH demand. We now need to locate a water heater that will heat about 81.25 GPH to 120 degrees. My incoming minimal water temperature is 60 degrees, so I need to locate a heater that will heat 81.25 gallons of water 60 degrees within 60 minutes, I use my water heater specification sheet for this and located a 50 gallon, 40k BTU heater with 50 gallons of storage will work fine. Now if I have several occupants using the system, or have fixtures with higher demands I need to increase the heater size even more as we base the size on maximum peak usage demand. There are other way to also do this, hopefully this helps.
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Re: Code Question
I forgot about the code section you asked. Chapter 5 of the California Plumbing Code for water heaters table 5-1 indicates the minimal size heaters, base upon your scenario 67 would be your minimal 1st hour rating.
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Re: Code QuestionQuote:
average family of 3.5 is pretty busy multi-tasking? Not saying it wouldn't be "ideal" but under normal use, it seems there's a good deal of wasted capacity and unnecessary energy consumption. Just a thought, not an argument.
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Re: Code Question
There is no code that says a house has to have hot water.
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Re: Code Question
Thanks for the replies, I wasn't sure if there was a code or not so I figured i'd ask the pros before making any assumptions.
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Re: Code Question
You can get an occupancy permit for a dwelling without a water heater or hot water piping, provided there is a means to heat water in the dwelling.
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for the week when the W/H crapped out during "The Blizzard." Been worried about that for 30 years.
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Re: Code QuestionQuote:
The most you would use at 1 time would be 2 showers and maybe a kitchen sink or a DW. |
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