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Old 01-28-2008, 08:47 PM   #1
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Clog,clog,clog.clog ,clog


It seems at least twice a week one or two of our toilets gets a good clog.
So bad sometimes ,it takes up to 30 min.to clear.They've done this since new.

On the problem side;
1)Could it be the pitch of the drain?
2)Could it be the units(American Standard 1.6gal)?
3)Flappers seem good,when I'm watching them work.
4) Maybe a little stool softener in #2 sons diet?


Solutions?
a) Something(chemical) to help dislodge the clog that is safe for septic
b)Plunger is near worn out already/so is the wife's nerves.
New wife?new plunger?

c)Bring home 5gal. buckets/everyone gets their own?


Any suggestions,serious or otherwise welcome.The wife says I spend too much time here,so a good solution will get me a kitchen pass.

Thanks,
John


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Old 01-28-2008, 08:51 PM   #2
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Too easy to pass up.....

C)4) !

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Too easy to pass up.....

C)4) !

isn't C4 an explosive?

I don't think that's going to help!

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Don't think I haven't considered it!
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Sure, after the C-4
you implement the bucket phase.
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Is there a vent asap after the toilet goes in the floor?

Is there a tight 90 degree elbow right after the flange?

What kind of funky plumbing downstream?

Anything else troublesome?
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Is there a vent asap after the toilet goes in the floor?

Is there a tight 90 degree elbow right after the flange?

What kind of funky plumbing downstream?

Anything else troublesome?
The vents are there ,the job was done professionally.

There is a tight 90 degree after the flange .

Sinks and tub,shower drain well.
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How old is the house?

Overhead sewer?
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How old is the house?

Overhead sewer?

Five year old house.

Overhead sewer??
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does the tight 90 after the flange have a vent inlet in it? Where is the vent inlet after the flange?
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maybe some drainoooooooooo
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does the tight 90 after the flange have a vent inlet in it? Where is the vent inlet after the flange?
About 18"past the flange on one and 24" on another ,the third is buried in the ceiling.

The vent is actually a y pointed away from the fixture and it is a 2" vent stack out from here.

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I would try to get a vent inlet in the 90, on the side or end. A long 90 is always better than a short. Maybe this isn't the cause of your trouble, but this is pretty basic-vent asap after the trap. I'm assuming that the fall is correct and that I don't have to query as to the pipe diameter.
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I would try to get a vent inlet in the 90, on the side or end. A long 90 is always better than a short. Maybe this isn't the cause of your trouble, but this is pretty basic-vent asap after the trap. I'm assuming that the fall is correct and that I don't have to query as to the pipe diameter.

The plumber did state that the fall was a little tight ,as we were trying to keep everything above the bottom of joists in the cellar,but I have the same problem upstairs(second floor),were the toilet has an isolated run to the cellar.
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Ex-Lax.

What kind of toilet...make and model?
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Does you use any chemicals in the tank? Blue stuff, drop in tabs?
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What does it mean anyway, that it was installed professionally?

Does it mean that the plumbing will work, or the guy was well mannered?

Maybe you can get the plumber on speed dial and call him every time you have a problem. You might suggest sodomizing him with the plunger.

As far as the plunger is concerned, do you have a nice long one with a water reservoir, (the turbo charged model)? You know you have to fill this with water first. Don't plunge with air. And you can go back and forth, up and down with the plunger. If you're spending half an hour more than twice a week, there must be a Norwegian in the liquor cabinet somewhere.
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Change that tight 90 to a couple of 45's. check out the rest of the pitch. See if there is any hopping over any a/c ducts. I saw that once.
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There is a tight 90 degree after the flange .

As in vent 90 or med turn 90?

Med turn 90 is ok, vent 90 not good.
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About 18"past the flange on one and 24" on another ,the third is buried in the ceiling.

The vent is actually a y pointed away from the fixture and it is a 2" vent stack out from here.
Sounds like the bathroom group is wet vented since fall was marginal? No mention of problems with any other fixture within the bathroom groups so we are talking about the toilets only. Your toilets are well within distance to the vent. It sounds like you are saying the wyes are installed in reverse position so that the 2" flows into the 3" downstream from and against the flow of the toilet. This is correct only if the 2" is a VENT ONLY and the 3" is in the horizontal (wet vented). 2" of the wye must be oriented above the horizontal by at least 45* and vertical is best. Check your fall with a level making sure there is fall along the entire length of this run. The 90* coming out of the flange must be either a 3" long sweep or a 4" x 3" water closet ell. NO OFFSET FLANGES! If all these things are in order scrap your AS and get a Toto with G-Max (which you should probably do anyway).

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does the tight 90 after the flange have a vent inlet in it? Where is the vent inlet after the flange?
Unnecessary and will cause big problems. The first time there is a branch back up this vent inlet will be blocked negating the vent until it is cleared.
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