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Old 01-28-2007, 10:36 AM   #1
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What type of bathtub/shower combo would you install in a rental property if you had longevity in mind. Is cast iron really the only way to go? Any pros and cons that you will only learn through experience?


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Porcelain on Steel (POS) is one of the most common and reasonably priced tubs available. The POS is made up of one thin stamped steel shell, which is coated with a heat-fused porcelain enamel. The advantages to these tubs are that they are resistant to acid, corrosion and abrasion, flame proof and colorfast (they generally maintain their original color and high gloss). The drawback is that if the surface gets chipped it will rust.

Acrylic is vacuum-molded from sheets of colored acrylic and reinforced with fiberglass, which makes it resistant to chips and cracks. It is economical and lightweight, and it can be repaired if damaged. It has a natural luster, and a non-porous finish that is easy to clean, but it's subject to scratching and can discolor over time. Some manufacturers make a grade of acrylic that is said to be durable enough to be able to be hit with a hammer and not crack.

Fiberglass/Gel coat (FRP) is usually the least expensive material for bathtubs. It is lightweight, easy to install, and can be molded into a variety of shapes. Though similar in appearance to acrylic, FRP is different from acrylic. While the surface of an acrylic unit is vacuum formed from a single sheet of solid plastic, a Gelcoat surface is formed by spraying a pigmented polyester resin onto a mold. Thick layers of fiberglass and foam insulation underscore the sleek and stylish lines of gelcoat units, but don‚t be fooled by appearances, this material is much thinner and less durable than acrylic. While the finish won't last as long as other materials (it shows wear after 10 to 15 years), and can scratch or fade, it can be easily repaired.

Cast iron is enamel coated and considered the most durable bathtub material available - it is also the most expensive. The word "cast" simply identifies the method used to produce the finished product, and not to describe the material itself. The casting method involves pouring the iron in a molten or liquid form into a mold which defines the shape of the finished product. Because it's such a thick material its surface is resistant to chemicals, chipping, scratching and dents. It's nice to know when you make an investment like this, that you generally get a lifetime warranty.

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Old 01-28-2007, 11:50 AM   #2
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I worked on rentals for years, and, though fiberglass was cheaper, it is also most prone to needing replacement after a tennant moves out.

I'd go with cast iron in a rental property, if you can afford to.
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How about a cultured marble tub.
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Americast - American Standard
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Your right on the money, Americast solid tub for half the money of cast iron and i would install ceramic tile on the walls .
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No way would I put in an A.S. Americast tub. Those things are notorious chippers. I'm very suprised anyone would recommend that product for this purpose. P.O.S is not an option. Have you guys never heard the horror stories of that stuff?

Also ceramic tile is definitly out. I'm looking for bullet proof, even though I can install an almost bullet proof tile surround, a nice Mustee Durawall direct to stud unit is going to be cheaper, faster and more bullet proof than tile.
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No way would I put in an A.S. Americast tub. Those things are notorious chippers. I'm very suprised anyone would recommend that product for this purpose. P.O.S is not an option. Have you guys never heard the horror stories of that stuff?

Also ceramic tile is definitly out. I'm looking for bullet proof, even though I can install an almost bullet proof tile surround, a nice Mustee Durawall direct to stud unit is going to be cheaper, faster and more bullet proof than tile.

I'll be honest with you in all my years in plumbing i haven't seen Americast chip yet , Yes a surround of other material than tile would be cheaper and faster but i dont think as durable .
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No way would I put in an A.S. Americast tub. Those things are notorious chippers. I'm very suprised anyone would recommend that product for this purpose. P.O.S is not an option. Have you guys never heard the horror stories of that stuff?

Also ceramic tile is definitly out. I'm looking for bullet proof, even though I can install an almost bullet proof tile surround, a nice Mustee Durawall direct to stud unit is going to be cheaper, faster and more bullet proof than tile.
I have yet to see or here of an Americast tub chip either, but I can see how it could happen in a rental property. If it was me I would go with Swanstone "Veritek" shower units. They are a heavy plastic unit, inexpensive, and very durable.
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Interesting that you guys have never had an issue. If you do a search on Americast bathtub on the web you will get pages of complaints.
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My question to you Mike is, what kind of people are you renting to?? If they are that bad just form it up & build it out of concrete...
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I stayed at a campsite once where I swear the tub was cast from concrete. Could that be? I see concrete laundry sinks all the time.
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lol, not renting to section 8s or anything like that, actually on the higher end of the market, but it's not necessarily the degree of abuse, it's more about the years of service. If I can get 20 years out of a tub instead of 6 it's worth paying a more for it now. These are long term holds for me, so bullet proofing is worth it even if it costs more now, it will save money in the long run.

Rentals are a fine line, you don't want to over rehab them, but you do want quality materials when it comes to things that will last. You've got to pick your battles knowing where to spend your money and where not to.
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Getting ready to close on my first rental tomorrrow, It's gonna a real education in a new venture.
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Put in a shower if u don't want to spend $.
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