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Old 03-02-2018, 06:33 PM   #21
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Yep, if all they did was replace the adapter (I see he left the previous white nut) then you got robbed.
That was just the beginning of the heist!

What is really is he was recommended by a great!! Structural and Cladding company I had used to clad my dormer and put on a steel roof. I had to write the guy and tell him not to refer this plumbing company to any more of his clients. It would be bound to reflect poorly on him if his referrals turn out to be shysters.

I would hire that Cladding company again with out a second though.
Later I plan to have them do my doors, windows, decks and a sun-porch.

When the plumbing gets an overhaul, you can bet, it won't be the same company that gets the contract! AND that is a job that will eventually need to be done before I renovate the interiors.
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Old 03-02-2018, 06:33 PM   #22
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You would think he would have eliminated the S-trap for what he charged you.
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Old 03-02-2018, 06:49 PM   #23
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You would think he would have eliminated the S-trap for what he charged you.
There were a lot of things I thought he would have/should have done. There was a lot more he wanted to do to me but I cut the contract short and paid out what was said to be the balance owing. I just did not want his unassisted apprentice (excuse me "technician") doing any thing more complicated than the things he had already failed at. The company refused to send a licensed plumber. Though the original quote was very near $3000. I learned quickly what kind of service the money would buy so I got out at $996.56

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I'm guessing be redid the trs p to put in a eye to run ljpe up to a new admittance valve.
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I'm guessing be redid the trs p to put in a eye to run ljpe up to a new admittance valve.
put yer damned glasses on davis !
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I'm guessing be redid the trs p to put in a eye to run ljpe up to a new admittance valve.
This was every thing he did in that bathroom:
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He didn't even bother to remove the old nut off the tailpiece.
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Before we go throwing stones, did he replace an existing Studor with a new one. If the bill said installed AAV and he installed a new AAV (even on an old adapter), he did what he said.
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Before we go throwing stones, did he replace an existing Studor with a new one. If the bill said installed AAV and he installed a new AAV (even on an old adapter), he did what he said.
NOPE, Just the simple item all the arrows point to in the above pic. That was the beginning, middle and the end of that job. He is calling the adapter an AAV!
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I'd do that for a lot less money. I'll even put my glasses on.
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Honestly I've never sued anybody in my life, but in my opinion you have a good case against him if you should choose too.
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NOPE, Just the simple item all the arrows point to in the above pic. That was the beginning, middle and the end of that job. He is calling the adapter an AAV!
The AAV looks pretty shiny and new, it's possible he replaced it.
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NOPE, Just the simple item all the arrows point to in the above pic. That was the beginning, middle and the end of that job. He is calling the adapter an AAV!
Not to doubt you, but sometimes nice, clean work is deceptive and looks like less than it is. That looks like nice, clean work (and new, clean pipe), plus there's an AAV....don't give it another thought.
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So you knew the aav was already up there before he started work? Don't you have before and after pics?
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I agree with you. It looks very new, and we'll placed. If you don't have pics to confirm it was there before (and your obvious lack of knowledge where and how an aac should be) you can Google it and see that where it is, is pretty much exactly where it should be!!
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So you knew the aav was already up there before he started work? Don't you have before and after pics?
How many HOs do you know who think they should take before work pictures? I don't know any after 40 years in business! AND it is not my habit to take "before" pictures before having a contractor do work for me BUT now that you have suggested it, I might well do that in future. (Though I doubt it, given I trust most people and would not be likely to think of it in advance) My default position is to trust companies that I hire! When I find my trust has been misplaced I simply make notes and put them on my S**T list with bold red note: DO NOT CALL! To date, there are only 2 companies on that list. I am also shocked when a contractor does not act in a professional manner. I always expect them to be as straight and ethical in business as I am, myself.

I watched the kid working! I did not know the AAV was already there, I just know what was done and the plumbing company said the the adapter was a new Air Admittance Valve. What I now know is the adapter is not an Air Admittance Valve and they did not install said AAV! They did exactly what I pointed to. In any case, it is not as though I want to go after this company, in any way. What all of this means is I will look for a new company to serve my plumbing needs.

My opening question was simply an attempt to understand what had been done because that fixture did not look like an AAV to me. When I told the contractor he had charged me for an AVV he had not put in, he was "Out Raged" and sent a picture of the adapter that he did put in. I replied by sending him a screen shot of the first two answers on this thread. He declined to respond and explain how he mistook an adapter for an AAV. I would have allowed for an explanation but he has not sent one. That was the point at which I concluded he was not a completely honest guy!

I'm sorry, fellas, this guy was not honest! Most indies that I know are honest, a few are inept and the odd one just plain stupid, BUT Out & Out dishonesty is rare (I like to believe!). This really is not meant as a condemnation of the trades. After all, we all have a few shysters that number in any of the trades! (IE $99 a room painters $10 an hour painters, etc.)
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The AAV looks pretty shiny and new, it's possible he replaced it.
The whole sink set-up was relatively new! I had the faucets replaced not long ago. The guy was nowhere near that AVV! I watched him work. (after the kitchen disaster, I was not about to leave the kid on his own!) None of this is the kid, apprentice's fault! He did what his boss told him to do and was left on his own to do it. The poor kid is just not trained well enough yet. Sadly, he is apprenticed to a company that will not serve him well.

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Now that you clarified it, you deserve restitution for that straight-up fraud.

A calm and clear letter, cc'd to some attorney (or friend who has a JD), might be in order. Mentioning an intent to complain to the licensing board might also help, since paying back is just cheaper and less hassle for them.
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Now that you clarified it, you deserve restitution for that straight-up fraud.

A calm and clear letter, cc'd to some attorney (or friend who has a JD), might be in order. Mentioning an intent to complain to the licensing board might also help, since paying back is just cheaper and less hassle for them.
It would take a lot more than this for me to take any legal action! It would not be worth my time and trouble. (Works both ways) What I did do is contact the contractor that recommended him and suggested he may not want to be linked in association with said plumbing company. I also posted reviews on Google, Home Stars and will on the BBB. I hope the reviews will help to make him more honest and HOs more cautious about how a contract is written up, IE: promise to send a licensed plumber to the job!
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If you did the work you say then he was near the valve. To me it's looking like he pulled the pcv stuff off (forgot the nut), replaced it with abs, including the horizontal pipe to a new aav valve. If he did all that then the price isn't bad. Plus we are talking Canadian dollars. Is that around $200 US? Don't know the latest exchange rate.

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