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Trade: entrepreneur of excavating expertise
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No Reason For This Crap
i don't know why....our excavating associations can't stop these S.O.B's who are dropping in these shallow utilities from doing this shirt....they drop these wires 3-6' away from each other, gobbling up the right of ways....and expect us to dig around them later.....we can, but why should the property owner pay a HUGE amount of money for us to do this? they have vacuums, they can just as easily find the other utilities and place adjacent to...took us 2 full days to install 130' of pipe....real sweet!
all in all...3-fibers, 1-600 pair, 1-4" gas main. on edit, i forgot the 12" water main
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Dig with BIG TOYS
Trade: Landscape, Masonry, Site Prep... the grunt work
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Re: No Reason For This Crap
wow man that really sucks... i cant belive how close those wires are to the surface... looks like less than 2 ft below right...
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Structural Engineer
Trade: Mechanical, Structural
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Re: No Reason For This Crap
A licensed engineer made me run a 2 inch and a 3 inch welded carbon steel steam line through this opening. We had to come in from the left, dive in, and run uphill from there. Insane.
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Re: No Reason For This Crap
still a lot of clay tile used in jersey?
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Re: No Reason For This Crap
I haven't installed clay in 11 years, and the last time was in a chemical plant.
When we installed the steam lines, we purposefully broke the clay pipe on the left and replaced the section with cast iron. We begged the engineer to let us do that, because we didn't want steam lines that close to the clay. |
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Re: No Reason For This Crap
last time i laid clay tile here was in late 60's
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Structural Engineer
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Re: No Reason For This Crap
The electrical vault and the clay in the picture were installed in the late 50's.
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Re: No Reason For This Crap
One township here still requires all new construction sewer mains to be clay.
Anyway, I can't belive there was no sand padding or marker tape near those fiber lines. Good job on not ripping them out.
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Re: No Reason For This Crap
Yeah we do some crazy digging! This was a residential job. New electrical service to house.
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d up... last time i saw lines like that... was, well actually i dont think ive had it that bad... Hey heres a good question, have any of you guys called for a mark out and started digging and hit something that wasnt supposed to be there i just recently did... and im wondering what my best course of action is gonna be... it happened yesterday to be exact... and it happened to be one of theose pritty yellow pipes that just end up always being in the wrong place at the wrong time
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Re: No Reason For This Crap
we take pics of the marks/flags before we dig....our state law says if marks are over 18" off....they pay for repair...don't know how your state is
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Re: No Reason For This Crap
I've seen guys with a person on site for the whole dig, just standing there with a camcorder, recording their entire excavation. Sounds a bit pricey, but it can cya.
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Re: No Reason For This Crap Here's my fun one for the week.... 8 Separate utilities in the space of about 7-8 feet. 100 pair phone cable, 6'' gas service, 2 phone drops, 4'' high pressure gas that feeds the seed corn plant nearby, 4'' clay tile that the city had no idea was there, water, sewer.... Whatta joy this was(not)
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Trade: excavator operator
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Re: No Reason For This Crap
is this sort of thing unusual in the states ? maybe its the lack of space over here but the utilites in the above excavations look about normal to what you'd find and hve to dig round over here, in the past i've been asked to "follow" a 33kv cable
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